1 00:00:38,790 --> 00:00:37,050 how's it going higher side chatters 2 00:00:40,979 --> 00:00:38,800 drinking a little drink smoking a little 3 00:00:42,630 --> 00:00:40,989 smoke from San Diego I'm Greg Carl wood 4 00:00:45,090 --> 00:00:42,640 and today we're going to go deeper than 5 00:00:48,029 --> 00:00:45,100 deep with Jay Widener scholar of Gnostic 6 00:00:50,130 --> 00:00:48,039 texts and alchemical traditions maker of 7 00:00:52,889 --> 00:00:50,140 films such as Kubrick's Odyssey in time 8 00:00:55,169 --> 00:00:52,899 way of 2013 and exposure of the ugly 9 00:00:57,599 --> 00:00:55,179 truth about the crypto terrestrials aka 10 00:01:00,569 --> 00:00:57,609 the archons aka the global elite in 11 00:01:02,610 --> 00:01:00,579 their final form but also back in the 12 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:02,620 settle today is my occasional co-pilot 13 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:04,449 Adam go rightly hot on the heels of a 14 00:01:08,550 --> 00:01:06,490 psychedelic symphony of high weirdness 15 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:08,560 at the first annual paranoiac on in our 16 00:01:12,090 --> 00:01:10,810 first real world meet-and-greet always a 17 00:01:14,670 --> 00:01:12,100 pleasure to have him along for the ride 18 00:01:16,740 --> 00:01:14,680 at a man how you holding up good dude 19 00:01:19,130 --> 00:01:16,750 man you got a lot of energy this morning 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:19,140 just having my second cup of coffee here 21 00:01:24,929 --> 00:01:22,210 yeah man it's it's tough but you know 22 00:01:26,249 --> 00:01:24,939 that's um it helps the show go along I 23 00:01:29,130 --> 00:01:26,259 mean you know it was great to see you in 24 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:29,140 San Diego man um a lot of other bonafide 25 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:32,110 pimps were there they can have a pretty 26 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:35,110 good time yeah it was a blast enjoyed it 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:39,850 there it was that place Cafe Sobotka or 28 00:01:44,459 --> 00:01:41,850 backyard you see that little Russian 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:44,469 restaurant really like the scene there 30 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:48,450 it was fun kind of a small intimate 31 00:01:54,810 --> 00:01:52,240 venue but ya got to interact with some 32 00:01:56,850 --> 00:01:54,820 of the other conspiracy type researchers 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:01:56,860 and people there at the event so it was 34 00:02:01,529 --> 00:01:59,770 fun yeah man your set was pretty great 35 00:02:05,429 --> 00:02:01,539 it was nice to have a rock adela 36 00:02:07,170 --> 00:02:05,439 interlude to a series of to our talks I 37 00:02:08,940 --> 00:02:07,180 mean it's fascinating as they were you 38 00:02:13,380 --> 00:02:08,950 know it was good to jazz it up a little 39 00:02:15,839 --> 00:02:13,390 bit good yeah it helps break it up a bit 40 00:02:18,870 --> 00:02:15,849 and yeah I had a fun time playing the 41 00:02:22,010 --> 00:02:18,880 set with my buddy Joe so 42 00:02:24,330 --> 00:02:22,020 yeah he was a cool guy too 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:24,340 while we're hitting on things paranoia 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:26,290 you have a pretty awesome article in the 45 00:02:31,410 --> 00:02:29,290 new issue of paranoia magazine covers 46 00:02:33,030 --> 00:02:31,420 two of my favorite subjects conspiracy 47 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:33,040 and comedians and it's titled 48 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:34,750 appropriately the dead comedian 49 00:02:40,590 --> 00:02:38,110 conspiracy it's something rarely talked 50 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:40,600 about but it's how I got into conspiracy 51 00:02:44,490 --> 00:02:42,640 topics from the work of Bill Hicks and 52 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:44,500 George Carlin and it's funny because you 53 00:02:49,230 --> 00:02:46,930 hear about government agencies keeping a 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:49,240 close eye on various musicians and 55 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:51,610 musical acts in the 60s and 70s but 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:53,530 never comedians who are just as capable 57 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:56,050 of rattling cages and being just as 58 00:03:00,630 --> 00:02:58,210 influential which is a real problem for 59 00:03:02,850 --> 00:03:00,640 the establishment you know yeah the 60 00:03:05,370 --> 00:03:02,860 deeper I looked into it you know the 61 00:03:09,660 --> 00:03:05,380 more it seemed curious all the deaths of 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:09,670 these different comedians who were in a 63 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:12,130 sense you know comedians or philosophers 64 00:03:17,550 --> 00:03:14,410 or social activists they're the fly in 65 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:17,560 the ointment and starting you know with 66 00:03:22,830 --> 00:03:21,280 Lenny Bruce his death was curious and he 67 00:03:25,590 --> 00:03:22,840 was definitely a target of the 68 00:03:27,890 --> 00:03:25,600 government and the fuzz back in the day 69 00:03:30,690 --> 00:03:27,900 and then you look at other people like 70 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:30,700 Freddie Prinze he was into a lot of 71 00:03:36,780 --> 00:03:34,450 political stuff on and on you know they 72 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:36,790 all fit the profile he mentioned Bill 73 00:03:45,270 --> 00:03:40,000 Hicks and the list goes on there's a 74 00:03:47,370 --> 00:03:45,280 many more that seemed to diet curiously 75 00:03:50,610 --> 00:03:47,380 it curious times and their careers right 76 00:03:53,190 --> 00:03:50,620 as they were getting ready to be 77 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:53,200 catapulted to greater stardom and have a 78 00:03:58,110 --> 00:03:56,380 wider audience yeah another interesting 79 00:04:02,130 --> 00:03:58,120 part of that article I thought was that 80 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:02,140 this this guy the certain corner he had 81 00:04:07,170 --> 00:04:04,210 been the man to perform a bunch of 82 00:04:08,820 --> 00:04:07,180 suspicious and high-profile autopsies 83 00:04:11,910 --> 00:04:08,830 back in the day I think Marilyn Monroe 84 00:04:13,890 --> 00:04:11,920 Robert Kennedy and where it comes into 85 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:13,900 your article is John Belushi whose death 86 00:04:17,670 --> 00:04:15,130 I always thought was a pretty 87 00:04:19,470 --> 00:04:17,680 cut-and-dried drug overdose but it 88 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:19,480 originally was reported as natural 89 00:04:23,220 --> 00:04:21,400 causes which is pretty highly suspicious 90 00:04:25,590 --> 00:04:23,230 right mm-hmm 91 00:04:28,530 --> 00:04:25,600 yeah this is a Thomas Noguchi you're 92 00:04:32,340 --> 00:04:28,540 talking about who's the corner corner in 93 00:04:34,170 --> 00:04:32,350 LA before holy smokes 94 00:04:38,670 --> 00:04:34,180 something like 30 years he handled all 95 00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:38,680 those high profile autopsies that you 96 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:41,500 mentioned there that all of them that 97 00:04:46,670 --> 00:04:44,370 seemed are people suggest have 98 00:04:50,370 --> 00:04:46,680 conspiracies swirling around them 99 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:50,380 Noguchi was modeled after the character 100 00:04:55,710 --> 00:04:54,610 the television show with oh god it 101 00:04:59,220 --> 00:04:55,720 escapes me now 102 00:05:00,840 --> 00:04:59,230 oh crap with Jack Klugman Jack Klugman 103 00:05:02,730 --> 00:05:00,850 is the corner what the hell was that 104 00:05:06,060 --> 00:05:02,740 call that was way before your time now 105 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:06,070 and I'm lost yeah I had a little brain 106 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:08,170 fart there but people know who I'm 107 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:10,720 talking about who go back to those days 108 00:05:17,310 --> 00:05:13,990 but yeah the will come to me in a minute 109 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:17,320 but yeah the Belushi one was real 110 00:05:22,830 --> 00:05:20,530 curious I first heard about from another 111 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:22,840 comedian social activist Dick Gregory 112 00:05:27,810 --> 00:05:24,810 who's been knee-deep into all this 113 00:05:30,990 --> 00:05:27,820 conspiracy stuff for years and years and 114 00:05:33,150 --> 00:05:31,000 he claimed that Belushi around the time 115 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:33,160 of his death was looking at into some 116 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:35,890 other mysterious Hollywood deaths in 117 00:05:43,140 --> 00:05:38,890 particular Natalie Wood and William 118 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:43,150 Holden and Gregory suggests that Belushi 119 00:05:49,290 --> 00:05:46,810 had information that William Holden was 120 00:05:51,870 --> 00:05:49,300 friends with Ronald Reagan in fact he 121 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:51,880 was the best man at Reagan's wedding 122 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:53,050 this was during the Reagan 123 00:05:58,470 --> 00:05:56,050 administration Holden had information 124 00:06:02,280 --> 00:05:58,480 about the Reagan White House that he 125 00:06:04,460 --> 00:06:02,290 shared with Natalie Wood Robert Wagner 126 00:06:07,050 --> 00:06:04,470 Wagner and that bunch 127 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:07,060 Robert Wagner was in a show called 128 00:06:12,630 --> 00:06:09,250 heart-to-heart with Stefanie Powers and 129 00:06:14,250 --> 00:06:12,640 Stefanie Powers was William Holden's 130 00:06:16,860 --> 00:06:14,260 main squeeze all these people were 131 00:06:20,340 --> 00:06:16,870 connecting the corsa Natalie Wood died 132 00:06:23,070 --> 00:06:20,350 of a pretty suspicious death which it's 133 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:23,080 been revived in the news recently as 134 00:06:28,830 --> 00:06:24,880 well I guess yeah 135 00:06:30,750 --> 00:06:28,840 Gregory claimed that they've got a cat 136 00:06:32,790 --> 00:06:30,760 here I got a kick out of the room it 137 00:06:39,330 --> 00:06:32,800 starts doing that there I got the damn 138 00:06:43,140 --> 00:06:39,340 thing hang on just sec damn they're 139 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:43,150 worse than kids but and so yeah Gregory 140 00:06:50,490 --> 00:06:45,370 Dick Gregory contended that 141 00:06:54,050 --> 00:06:50,500 Belushi's supposed accidental overdose 142 00:06:57,780 --> 00:06:54,060 was much more than that 143 00:07:01,050 --> 00:06:57,790 yeah he was wasn't he supposed to meet 144 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:01,060 just the night before he died yeah 145 00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:04,210 that's uh Dick Gregory said that he blew 146 00:07:09,210 --> 00:07:05,889 she had planned a meeting with the 147 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:09,220 Gregory's buddy mark Lane mark Lane was 148 00:07:17,570 --> 00:07:13,360 the first guy to write a book critical 149 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:17,580 the Warren Report back in I was the mid 150 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:19,810 sixties one of the first book and he's 151 00:07:27,180 --> 00:07:24,970 been very active JFK assassination 152 00:07:30,029 --> 00:07:27,190 research or conspiracy researcher and 153 00:07:32,820 --> 00:07:30,039 Belushi parently had some information on 154 00:07:35,580 --> 00:07:32,830 the JFK assassination or the RFK I 155 00:07:39,330 --> 00:07:35,590 forget which one and he was supposed to 156 00:07:43,140 --> 00:07:39,340 meet with Mark Lane the next day and 157 00:07:46,159 --> 00:07:43,150 then once again he had that apparent 158 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:46,169 overdose at the Chateau Marmont in LA 159 00:07:53,250 --> 00:07:49,930 which effectively perhaps silenced him 160 00:07:55,129 --> 00:07:53,260 yeah man it's wild I mean things I 161 00:07:58,500 --> 00:07:55,139 always thought were cut and dry are 162 00:07:59,940 --> 00:07:58,510 pretty crazy yeah and it it was Bill 163 00:08:02,219 --> 00:07:59,950 Hicks who really did get me in a 164 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:02,229 conspiracy I was a huge huge fan of his 165 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:04,090 and also into psychedelics you know 166 00:08:07,980 --> 00:08:06,130 because I he started talking about his 167 00:08:10,409 --> 00:08:07,990 use in psychedelics is kind of what 168 00:08:12,570 --> 00:08:10,419 brought him to these notions and I was 169 00:08:14,580 --> 00:08:12,580 like yeah I'm down let's go down that 170 00:08:17,370 --> 00:08:14,590 rabbit hole but have you ever seen this 171 00:08:20,370 --> 00:08:17,380 uh conspiracy that Bill Hicks is 172 00:08:22,740 --> 00:08:20,380 actually Alex Jones yeah it's a bunch of 173 00:08:25,140 --> 00:08:22,750 nonsense I know it really is it really 174 00:08:28,260 --> 00:08:25,150 is but it's I think the thing that 175 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:28,270 offends me a little bit but II see you 176 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:33,010 know the sounds a bit like Bill yeah 177 00:08:39,570 --> 00:08:34,930 into nations and whatnot but he 178 00:08:43,100 --> 00:08:39,580 certainly does and have the sunshi or a 179 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:43,110 sense of humor that Bill Hicks had so 180 00:08:48,660 --> 00:08:46,240 you know Bill Hicks is near and dear to 181 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:48,670 my heart because he had that psychedelic 182 00:08:53,150 --> 00:08:51,010 experience on shrooms with his buddy 183 00:08:57,060 --> 00:08:53,160 Kevin Boothe and some others where they 184 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:57,070 made contact with something rather than 185 00:09:01,910 --> 00:08:58,450 I have a you know similar 186 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:01,920 thing when I was growing up that made me 187 00:09:08,820 --> 00:09:05,410 question consensus reality a psychedelic 188 00:09:11,340 --> 00:09:08,830 you know visitation with a friend of 189 00:09:12,630 --> 00:09:11,350 mine with some with the other whatever 190 00:09:15,450 --> 00:09:12,640 that was 191 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:15,460 who knows yeah he's a sacred cow in my 192 00:09:20,730 --> 00:09:18,550 mind it it would kill me I know that's a 193 00:09:23,310 --> 00:09:20,740 big part of the thing is they may look 194 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:23,320 somewhat similar but he wouldn't become 195 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:25,330 a shill like that or what I would say 196 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:28,330 Alex Jones I mean I'm not a huge Alex 197 00:09:34,410 --> 00:09:30,730 Jones fan I think he's just a fear 198 00:09:38,670 --> 00:09:34,420 monger and he keeps people waiting 199 00:09:40,410 --> 00:09:38,680 he's like a fear porn guy you know and 200 00:09:42,330 --> 00:09:40,420 he's meant well he comes from family 201 00:09:45,270 --> 00:09:42,340 money and he's making Bank off his 202 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:45,280 Empire and right seems a bit 203 00:09:51,270 --> 00:09:49,690 hypocritical if you pull up I don't know 204 00:09:54,210 --> 00:09:51,280 if you can find him anymore on the web 205 00:09:58,230 --> 00:09:54,220 but he owns this huge mansion out in 206 00:10:02,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Texas somewhere I mean a huge mansion 207 00:10:04,860 --> 00:10:02,170 that it's like Citizen Kane Citizen 208 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:04,870 Hearst type of mansion really yeah 209 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:06,880 damn I'm have to look into that yeah he 210 00:10:12,210 --> 00:10:09,160 definitely doesn't see him like his 211 00:10:15,750 --> 00:10:12,220 hearts in the right place there hey I've 212 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:15,760 got on the web here this the television 213 00:10:23,910 --> 00:10:19,890 program hey he said after Noguchi was 214 00:10:26,010 --> 00:10:23,920 Quincy Quincy yeah Jack Klugman was in 215 00:10:26,490 --> 00:10:26,020 that I don't know before your time I 216 00:10:28,140 --> 00:10:26,500 guess 217 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:28,150 right on yeah I mean I watched a lot of 218 00:10:31,530 --> 00:10:30,130 shows from that era that were on Nick at 219 00:10:33,450 --> 00:10:31,540 night because I watched a lot of that 220 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:33,460 growing up but Quincy was didn't make it 221 00:10:38,420 --> 00:10:36,730 on there yeah a lot of like a lot of 222 00:10:43,380 --> 00:10:38,430 those shows it was kind of lame but 223 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:43,390 based after the corner Robert Naboo char 224 00:10:48,630 --> 00:10:45,360 excuse me Thomas Noguchi 225 00:10:50,670 --> 00:10:48,640 all right on well before we bring Jay 226 00:10:53,690 --> 00:10:50,680 and I did want to ask you on the air I 227 00:10:56,460 --> 00:10:53,700 your book projects we're coming along oh 228 00:10:58,410 --> 00:10:56,470 they're coming along nothing to speak of 229 00:11:00,920 --> 00:10:58,420 yet you know I hate getting into them 230 00:11:06,630 --> 00:11:00,930 too deep until they actually get 231 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:06,640 published the one that we'll see first 232 00:11:11,730 --> 00:11:09,130 out of these ones I'm working on is the 233 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:11,740 history of discord ian is a minutes 234 00:11:18,180 --> 00:11:14,530 being laid out right now and working 235 00:11:19,830 --> 00:11:18,190 with the publisher it's pretty complex 236 00:11:24,570 --> 00:11:19,840 project because there's a lot of 237 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:24,580 materials letters and illustrations and 238 00:11:28,950 --> 00:11:26,530 different thing these guys wrote who 239 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:28,960 were involved in that scene back in the 240 00:11:34,170 --> 00:11:31,750 day so it's getting things all put 241 00:11:38,340 --> 00:11:34,180 together and captions and so it's moving 242 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:38,350 along hopefully we'll see it published 243 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:42,720 later this year and also working on a 244 00:11:48,750 --> 00:11:46,570 website for all these different related 245 00:11:51,660 --> 00:11:48,760 projects which will be historia 246 00:11:55,020 --> 00:11:51,670 discordia comm but it's not really 247 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:55,030 active yet that's being put together and 248 00:12:00,780 --> 00:11:57,600 I think if you go there now you'll 249 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:00,790 they'll just bring up page says Finn 250 00:12:06,060 --> 00:12:03,970 Lord but the things are coming good 251 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:06,070 stuff man I'm glad you're able to stay 252 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:07,810 motivated I'm trying to get a book done 253 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:09,910 but I like weed and Gordon Ramsay shows 254 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:14,560 too much it's sort of ironic mentally 255 00:12:18,690 --> 00:12:17,290 it's motivating but in three dimensional 256 00:12:21,150 --> 00:12:18,700 reality I'm just sitting there for hours 257 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:21,160 on the couch not doing yeah it's a 258 00:12:26,910 --> 00:12:25,090 strange form of self talk but alright 259 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:26,920 it's about that time that we steer this 260 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:29,200 ship deep into the depths of conspiracy 261 00:12:33,150 --> 00:12:30,850 and examine as much of the ocean of 262 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:33,160 information as we can with Jay Widener 263 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:34,930 but first I'm going to pound your ears 264 00:12:39,060 --> 00:12:36,970 with the beat of my conspiracy clothing 265 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:39,070 brand conspiracies and an ad we've all 266 00:12:42,270 --> 00:12:41,110 heard a thousand times maybe a thousand 267 00:12:44,610 --> 00:12:42,280 and one is going to be the great 268 00:12:46,650 --> 00:12:44,620 motivator for you and then I can eat 269 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:46,660 again this week so here goes an atom and 270 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:48,610 I'll be talking with the legendary Jay 271 00:12:59,710 --> 00:12:57,880 we're here because we don't buy into the 272 00:13:01,600 --> 00:12:59,720 [\h__\h] of mainstream culture we're 273 00:13:03,130 --> 00:13:01,610 tired of the mundane passionless careers 274 00:13:04,750 --> 00:13:03,140 we've been shuffled into as a result of 275 00:13:06,790 --> 00:13:04,760 this orchestrated debt based system of 276 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:06,800 rule and the stranglehold on education 277 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:08,450 entertainment by cold soulless 278 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:11,510 corporations people yes we are 279 00:13:16,540 --> 00:13:14,690 frustrated yes we are tired and we 280 00:13:17,860 --> 00:13:16,550 reject the brave group tranquilizers 281 00:13:19,990 --> 00:13:17,870 that are Monday Night Football and a 282 00:13:22,269 --> 00:13:20,000 nice cold Budweiser we have to stop 283 00:13:24,850 --> 00:13:22,279 hiding stop hiding behind the headphones 284 00:13:26,199 --> 00:13:24,860 in the cherry popper 4/20 user name let 285 00:13:28,660 --> 00:13:26,209 the world see that the resistance is 286 00:13:30,610 --> 00:13:28,670 strong and society is changing there was 287 00:13:31,060 --> 00:13:30,620 a time to be anonymous that time has 288 00:13:33,310 --> 00:13:31,070 passed 289 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:33,320 and so the higher side chats would like 290 00:13:37,170 --> 00:13:35,360 to present conspiracies as the daunted 291 00:13:39,540 --> 00:13:37,180 of this new paradigm in the uniform 292 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:39,550 revolution because both fashion should 293 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:41,710 mean more than some celebrity Lee Tresor 294 00:13:46,260 --> 00:13:44,410 Atlanta sleeping throwing conspiracies 295 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:46,270 redefines both fashion as having the 296 00:13:50,370 --> 00:13:48,190 balls to reject socially uncomfortable 297 00:13:54,420 --> 00:13:50,380 and unpopular truths from your radiant 298 00:13:57,420 --> 00:13:54,430 chest all [\h__\h] day its beauties 299 00:13:59,550 --> 00:13:57,430 dotnet let them know that you them both 300 00:14:02,320 --> 00:13:59,560 designs for trouble times hard truths 301 00:14:05,269 --> 00:14:02,330 soft rock 302 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:05,279 all right we are back people and we know 303 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:06,810 there are many layers to the conspiracy 304 00:14:11,210 --> 00:14:08,730 onion many branches on the conspiracy 305 00:14:12,860 --> 00:14:11,220 tree and I like to dive as deep into 306 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:12,870 these weird waters as a guest will allow 307 00:14:16,670 --> 00:14:14,760 and today is going to be a real treat 308 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:16,680 because Jay Widener is not afraid to 309 00:14:19,940 --> 00:14:18,210 throw off the floaties and take us to 310 00:14:22,340 --> 00:14:19,950 the bottom of the conspiratorial sea 311 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:22,350 he's a real authority on hermetic and 312 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:24,540 alchemical traditions hidden symbolism 313 00:14:28,579 --> 00:14:26,250 in both the ancient world and their more 314 00:14:30,980 --> 00:14:28,589 modern uses and he's a true scholar of 315 00:14:32,780 --> 00:14:30,990 the Gnostic texts he's written for years 316 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:32,790 on these topics and produced numerous 317 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:34,410 films the one that put him on my radar 318 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:36,930 being Kubrick's Odyssey secrets hidden 319 00:14:41,090 --> 00:14:39,210 in the films of Stanley Kubrick which 320 00:14:42,530 --> 00:14:41,100 details Jays position that the elite 321 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:42,540 commissioned Kubrick to fake the moon 322 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:44,250 landing footage and it makes a pretty 323 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:46,529 compelling case I must say he's a 324 00:14:50,750 --> 00:14:48,510 conspiratorial jack of all trades and 325 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:50,760 master of enlightening media Jay thanks 326 00:14:54,590 --> 00:14:52,050 for being on the show 327 00:14:56,269 --> 00:14:54,600 hey no problem glad to be here you know 328 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:56,279 a lot of times I find that a person puts 329 00:14:59,690 --> 00:14:58,050 out something interesting like Kubrick's 330 00:15:01,130 --> 00:14:59,700 Odyssey and I think man I really want to 331 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:01,140 have him on the show to talk about that 332 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:02,970 and then I start looking into their work 333 00:15:06,530 --> 00:15:04,830 and I find that it goes much deeper and 334 00:15:08,630 --> 00:15:06,540 sometimes it doesn't but in your case 335 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:08,640 Kubrick's Odyssey is really just a drop 336 00:15:11,810 --> 00:15:10,050 in the bucket compared to the more 337 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:11,820 paradigm changing information that 338 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:13,530 you're privy to and the things that you 339 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:15,120 share about the true nature of the 340 00:15:20,030 --> 00:15:17,850 elites their core goal which is not only 341 00:15:22,070 --> 00:15:20,040 their thinly veiled matrix of global 342 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:22,080 enslavement but also the suppression of 343 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:24,210 true human potential as well as some 344 00:15:29,150 --> 00:15:26,250 really interesting exposure on certain 345 00:15:30,950 --> 00:15:29,160 secrets within our solar system I hope 346 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:30,960 we can cover a good amount of it in just 347 00:15:35,090 --> 00:15:32,970 a short hour man which is challenging in 348 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:35,100 itself but since we're new to Jay 349 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:37,650 Widener here on THC and I have a good 350 00:15:41,420 --> 00:15:38,850 idea of what's coming down the pike 351 00:15:43,340 --> 00:15:41,430 myself I'm curious as to how you came to 352 00:15:45,410 --> 00:15:43,350 uncover some of the hidden knowledge 353 00:15:47,329 --> 00:15:45,420 that you have so I got to ask you how 354 00:15:48,380 --> 00:15:47,339 did you get clued in on what's really 355 00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:48,390 going on out there 356 00:15:56,660 --> 00:15:52,560 well good question um actually I guess 357 00:16:00,560 --> 00:15:56,670 it started a long time ago in 1986 when 358 00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:00,570 I have profound shamanic experience in 359 00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:04,260 which all of my personal paradigms were 360 00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:07,230 blasted away and shattered in an 361 00:16:13,670 --> 00:16:10,560 overnight experience and then that made 362 00:16:15,289 --> 00:16:13,680 me realize that I was pretty much wrong 363 00:16:18,559 --> 00:16:15,299 about everything that I had hell 364 00:16:21,949 --> 00:16:18,569 true to that point in my life I was 365 00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:21,959 still a young man and I had to discard 366 00:16:28,369 --> 00:16:25,199 everything that I had been taught and 367 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:28,379 then I discovered a book in a book stuck 368 00:16:32,959 --> 00:16:30,569 sale called mysteries of the cathedrals 369 00:16:35,629 --> 00:16:32,969 by a man named Vulcan le in the same 370 00:16:37,009 --> 00:16:35,639 year and I took the book home and I 371 00:16:39,859 --> 00:16:37,019 tried to read it I was a book about 372 00:16:41,899 --> 00:16:39,869 architecture and as I got the cathedrals 373 00:16:43,369 --> 00:16:41,909 that is and I took the book home and I 374 00:16:46,849 --> 00:16:43,379 realized it actually the book was about 375 00:16:49,009 --> 00:16:46,859 an arcane subject called alchemy and me 376 00:16:51,109 --> 00:16:49,019 being a practical scientific kind of guy 377 00:16:54,709 --> 00:16:51,119 knew that there could never be anything 378 00:16:57,799 --> 00:16:54,719 real like alchemy so I set out to debunk 379 00:17:01,959 --> 00:16:57,809 this very very clever intellectually 380 00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:01,969 driven book and the book debunked me and 381 00:17:09,439 --> 00:17:06,110 pretty soon I began realizing that 382 00:17:13,639 --> 00:17:09,449 science was pretty much wrong history 383 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:13,649 was a lie and everywhere I went as I 384 00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:17,730 investigated this book to to refute it I 385 00:17:23,210 --> 00:17:21,360 instead found out that that that the 386 00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:23,220 book by full cannelli was right and that 387 00:17:27,289 --> 00:17:25,439 almost everything I had been taught in 388 00:17:31,869 --> 00:17:27,299 school in college and everything I had 389 00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:31,879 read was wrong wrong not just wrong but 390 00:17:37,609 --> 00:17:35,070 devised wrong in other words it was done 391 00:17:40,159 --> 00:17:37,619 on purpose it was it was wrong but it 392 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:40,169 was wrong on purpose and that one took 393 00:17:44,330 --> 00:17:41,970 me about 20 years to really get my head 394 00:17:46,970 --> 00:17:44,340 around why anyone would write down false 395 00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:46,980 stories and false histories and of 396 00:17:54,799 --> 00:17:49,110 course that led me down into the rabbit 397 00:17:56,289 --> 00:17:54,809 hole of a million other things and um in 398 00:18:04,159 --> 00:17:56,299 the so I made an agreement with myself 399 00:18:06,619 --> 00:18:04,169 that in 1990 that if in 20 years I could 400 00:18:09,409 --> 00:18:06,629 look back and say no I probably not 401 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:09,419 write about those conspiracies I was 402 00:18:13,549 --> 00:18:11,610 looking at all those times ago then I 403 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:13,559 would just drop it and go living on 404 00:18:20,509 --> 00:18:17,570 alive but if in 20 years I look back and 405 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:20,519 I said no it's even worse than I thought 406 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:25,110 then I will go full bore into it and and 407 00:18:32,049 --> 00:18:29,090 and and devote my life to it and so in 408 00:18:37,700 --> 00:18:32,059 2006 on the twentieth anniversary of my 409 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:37,710 of my awakening I had a long talk with 410 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:39,840 myself I said okay do I believe it more 411 00:18:45,049 --> 00:18:42,570 or do I believe it less and the answer 412 00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:45,059 was resounding I not only believe it 413 00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:49,200 more I know it's true and so then I've 414 00:18:55,610 --> 00:18:51,679 gone from since 2006 last seven years 415 00:18:58,730 --> 00:18:55,620 pretty much confident that I know what 416 00:19:00,740 --> 00:18:58,740 I'm saying is right and going forth 417 00:19:04,909 --> 00:19:00,750 I knew that Kubrick had done the moon 418 00:19:06,799 --> 00:19:04,919 landings way before 2006 I knew in 2001 419 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:06,809 that you've done it but I didn't have 420 00:19:13,129 --> 00:19:09,330 the confidence until after my 421 00:19:14,899 --> 00:19:13,139 twenty-year review for me to go forward 422 00:19:18,110 --> 00:19:14,909 and say that he had done it and then 423 00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:18,120 prove it so a lot of things solidified 424 00:19:27,669 --> 00:19:20,880 and I'm kind of actually happy to say 425 00:19:31,850 --> 00:19:27,679 that uh the world seems to be slowly 426 00:19:33,470 --> 00:19:31,860 coming towards the point of view of my 427 00:19:37,310 --> 00:19:33,480 point of view or our point of view or 428 00:19:40,190 --> 00:19:37,320 the wakened point of view and I actually 429 00:19:42,620 --> 00:19:40,200 sort of almost smell victory in the air 430 00:19:47,779 --> 00:19:42,630 so I don't know what to say besides that 431 00:19:53,180 --> 00:19:47,789 the Otherworld is um far more intricate 432 00:19:55,970 --> 00:19:53,190 and far more conspiratorial than anyone 433 00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:55,980 can possibly imagine man I agree with 434 00:20:00,620 --> 00:19:58,559 you but let's talk Kubrick for a couple 435 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:00,630 minutes me I always thought there was 436 00:20:05,180 --> 00:20:03,090 something cryptic about the man and his 437 00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:05,190 films I mean Eyes Wide Shut is known to 438 00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:07,200 be soaked in symbolism and is a 439 00:20:13,250 --> 00:20:10,559 not-so-subtle expose on the pastimes of 440 00:20:15,980 --> 00:20:13,260 the elite and I know Adams written a bit 441 00:20:17,779 --> 00:20:15,990 about him as well but Jay tell us about 442 00:20:19,759 --> 00:20:17,789 Kubrick and his symbolism and his 443 00:20:21,950 --> 00:20:19,769 connections that put him in such a 444 00:20:22,810 --> 00:20:21,960 position to make a film like eyes wide 445 00:20:27,379 --> 00:20:22,820 shut 446 00:20:30,379 --> 00:20:27,389 yeah I mean um when I when I first had 447 00:20:33,379 --> 00:20:30,389 my revelation about mr. Kubrick was 448 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:33,389 about three weeks after he died in 1999 449 00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:36,570 it was that he think it was April 1999 450 00:20:41,870 --> 00:20:39,809 when I started getting my first I guess 451 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:41,880 you could say revelatory knowledge about 452 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:42,510 what 453 00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:44,850 he was putting into his film and I wrote 454 00:20:51,020 --> 00:20:47,280 an article called alchemical Kubrick in 455 00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:51,030 April of 1999 it went out and literally 456 00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:53,310 had millions and millions of hits it was 457 00:20:56,980 --> 00:20:54,720 really the first article I'd ever 458 00:20:59,840 --> 00:20:56,990 written that got millions of hits and 459 00:21:02,450 --> 00:20:59,850 caused a huge amount of controversy and 460 00:21:06,980 --> 00:21:02,460 a lot of people wrote to me you know May 461 00:21:09,290 --> 00:21:06,990 June of 1999 going you're crazy you're 462 00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:09,300 reading too much into 2001 a Space 463 00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:11,310 Odyssey you don't know what you're 464 00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:12,000 talking about 465 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:14,700 Kubrick wasn't into via call Kubrick 466 00:21:17,630 --> 00:21:16,770 resident uh the elites you don't know 467 00:21:20,420 --> 00:21:17,640 what you're talking about 468 00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:20,430 and I had to admit to myself that my 469 00:21:25,220 --> 00:21:22,320 critics were actually right I really had 470 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:25,230 no evidence in any of his films that he 471 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:26,970 was into the occult outside of the 472 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:32,010 shining maybe and then on July 20th or 473 00:21:37,610 --> 00:21:35,280 July 16 1999 a few just a few months 474 00:21:40,460 --> 00:21:37,620 after I wrote my first article Eyes Wide 475 00:21:43,820 --> 00:21:40,470 Shut came out and there it was 476 00:21:46,580 --> 00:21:43,830 and it was like BAM whoa you know you're 477 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:46,590 not only is he into the occult he's into 478 00:21:50,030 --> 00:21:48,570 revealing what the occult what the 479 00:21:53,090 --> 00:21:50,040 elites are doing and their occult 480 00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:53,100 rituals and then I thought I saw well 481 00:21:59,780 --> 00:21:56,100 why would he do that and then my answer 482 00:22:01,970 --> 00:21:59,790 came back because maybe possibly he 483 00:22:04,510 --> 00:22:01,980 attended some of these orgies some of 484 00:22:07,940 --> 00:22:04,520 these rituals and then I thought well 485 00:22:10,610 --> 00:22:07,950 okay does seem rather the movie itself 486 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:10,620 is very autobiographical eyes wide shine 487 00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:13,890 in that he made the set designer design 488 00:22:20,060 --> 00:22:17,430 Tom and Nicole Cruz's apartment to look 489 00:22:22,370 --> 00:22:20,070 just like his apartment in the late 50s 490 00:22:24,530 --> 00:22:22,380 and Billy in the village there in New 491 00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:24,540 York and so there were all these 492 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:28,400 parallels I was noticing him so then 493 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:31,530 that caused me to take it even greater 494 00:22:41,150 --> 00:22:37,290 look at Stanley and so in 2001 in 495 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:41,160 celebration of his great film 2001 they 496 00:22:48,110 --> 00:22:44,610 released the DVD of the movie 2001 I 497 00:22:50,330 --> 00:22:48,120 bought it I took it home and within the 498 00:22:52,340 --> 00:22:50,340 first 20 minutes of watching a movie I 499 00:22:54,890 --> 00:22:52,350 not only realized that he'd faked the 500 00:22:56,090 --> 00:22:54,900 moon landings but how he had done it and 501 00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:56,100 frontscreen projection 502 00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:00,240 among other things and then I sat on it 503 00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:04,320 for the next 10 years actually until 504 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:06,840 2009 when I finally went public with my 505 00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:12,450 findings so uh that's how I got and what 506 00:23:20,180 --> 00:23:15,510 it was as Kubrick was kind of a the end 507 00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:20,190 of a full cycle a cycle that began with 508 00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:24,000 full Canali in 1986 and me being me 509 00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:26,910 having my previous world completely and 510 00:23:32,060 --> 00:23:29,760 utterly destroyed and having to find my 511 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:32,070 balance losing my wife losing my family 512 00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,770 losing my friends and losing everyone 513 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:36,240 just abandoning me because they thought 514 00:23:43,940 --> 00:23:41,010 I'd lost my mind to finally coming to 515 00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:43,950 grips with not only the conspiracy but 516 00:23:47,899 --> 00:23:45,750 that the conspiracy uses people like 517 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:47,909 Stanley Kubrick and then how does it use 518 00:23:55,010 --> 00:23:51,330 it and I began to figure all that out 519 00:23:58,940 --> 00:23:55,020 and I think that that was a real shot 520 00:24:01,850 --> 00:23:58,950 across the bow um and I believe it was 521 00:24:03,980 --> 00:24:01,860 all planned by Kubrick he put the stuff 522 00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:03,990 in his films I think he thought it would 523 00:24:08,270 --> 00:24:06,240 take a little bit longer for someone to 524 00:24:10,909 --> 00:24:08,280 figure it out and find it and bring it 525 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:10,919 out I don't think he was I think he was 526 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:13,770 really surprised if he'd been alive that 527 00:24:17,180 --> 00:24:16,110 it happened so soon within 10 years 528 00:24:20,330 --> 00:24:17,190 after his death 529 00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:20,340 but it is and I'm not alone and like you 530 00:24:24,049 --> 00:24:21,840 said Adam go write Lee's writing about 531 00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:24,059 him and there's about a hundred other 532 00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:25,950 people that are combing through his 533 00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,289 films of the fine-tooth comb and we're 534 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:30,480 finding out all the secrets that he lay 535 00:24:35,270 --> 00:24:32,850 buried in their secrets that he wanted 536 00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:35,280 to be found out secrets that he wanted 537 00:24:39,049 --> 00:24:37,710 revealed through pop culture so they 538 00:24:41,299 --> 00:24:39,059 could never be taken back 539 00:24:44,659 --> 00:24:41,309 it's actually quite brilliant and for a 540 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:44,669 man with a 200 IQ like Stan Lee job well 541 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:45,210 done 542 00:24:50,899 --> 00:24:48,450 you know yeah a.j do you think that he 543 00:24:54,919 --> 00:24:50,909 crossed the line with Eyes Wide Shut and 544 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:54,929 was did away with because of that well 545 00:24:59,060 --> 00:24:57,450 you know I can't say because I wasn't 546 00:25:01,940 --> 00:24:59,070 there and he was still smoking 547 00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:01,950 cigarettes at 70 years old yeah and I 548 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:03,480 know that shooting a movie because I'm 549 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:06,330 just finishing one is a serious physical 550 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:09,650 um can early break you down 551 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:12,170 younger than he was and it's just about 552 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:14,690 tore me into the ground so I don't know 553 00:25:20,290 --> 00:25:18,050 I do know this the fact that he died six 554 00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:20,300 hundred sixty six days before January 555 00:25:26,890 --> 00:25:23,990 1st 2001 really brings a lot of red 556 00:25:29,860 --> 00:25:26,900 flags and alarm bells in my head and I 557 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:29,870 also talked to I don't know who this man 558 00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:33,530 was he called me anonymously and told me 559 00:25:40,150 --> 00:25:37,760 that Kubrick was in the lobby while the 560 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:40,160 Warner Brothers executives were watching 561 00:25:44,890 --> 00:25:42,650 the cut of two of the highlights shot 562 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:44,900 and Kubrick was walking back and forth 563 00:25:48,730 --> 00:25:46,610 in the lobby muttering to himself 564 00:25:50,050 --> 00:25:48,740 they're going to kill me they're going 565 00:25:51,940 --> 00:25:50,060 to see this film and they're going to 566 00:25:53,470 --> 00:25:51,950 get so pissed off they're going to kill 567 00:25:56,620 --> 00:25:53,480 me I don't know if he meant that 568 00:26:01,060 --> 00:25:56,630 figuratively for real but five days 569 00:26:05,170 --> 00:26:01,070 later he was dead Wow yeah I've seen the 570 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:05,180 film you put together exposing you know 571 00:26:12,670 --> 00:26:08,770 the 2001 and the moon-landing using this 572 00:26:16,060 --> 00:26:12,680 frontscreen projection method and indeed 573 00:26:18,190 --> 00:26:16,070 I found that pretty damn compelling well 574 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:18,200 it is what's amazing about it is is that 575 00:26:24,550 --> 00:26:20,570 there's all these people that are trying 576 00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:24,560 to debunk that those findings and what's 577 00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:27,440 funny is is they're debunking is just so 578 00:26:35,380 --> 00:26:32,720 pathetic like um they one guy's a nasa 579 00:26:38,050 --> 00:26:35,390 expert he's trying to rip me apart and 580 00:26:40,770 --> 00:26:38,060 he says well you know Widener finds all 581 00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:40,780 these geometries up in the sky you know 582 00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:43,460 above the moon and then what he does is 583 00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,070 he pulls out another photograph of I 584 00:26:50,050 --> 00:26:48,320 think it was Apollo 11 launching and 585 00:26:52,930 --> 00:26:50,060 says let's see I found the same thing 586 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:52,940 here so here we have the sky of Florida 587 00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:55,250 you know this launch is going up and 588 00:27:01,960 --> 00:26:57,280 there are indeed some strange 589 00:27:03,610 --> 00:27:01,970 articulations up in the sky but dude I'm 590 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:03,620 talking about on the moon I'm not 591 00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:05,450 talking about a photograph taken from 592 00:27:09,910 --> 00:27:08,240 the earth of the apollo watching i'm 593 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:09,920 talking about on the moon it's not just 594 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:12,530 one photograph it's literally hundreds 595 00:27:18,010 --> 00:27:15,650 and hundreds of photographs x if you 596 00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:18,020 don't if you want to tell me that that 597 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:19,990 is not proof frontscreen projection 598 00:27:23,150 --> 00:27:22,130 crate what is it 599 00:27:24,890 --> 00:27:23,160 that 600 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:24,900 than nothing because when you argue with 601 00:27:28,910 --> 00:27:26,970 imbeciles or when you debate with 602 00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:28,920 imbeciles you got to be careful and not 603 00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:30,990 look like an imbecile yourself because 604 00:27:34,850 --> 00:27:33,360 as Mark Twain said never get in an 605 00:27:36,370 --> 00:27:34,860 argument with a fool because anyone 606 00:27:40,250 --> 00:27:36,380 watching will have trouble finding out 607 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:40,260 discovering who's who and and so I don't 608 00:27:46,210 --> 00:27:42,720 really go after my debugger xeni more I 609 00:27:48,650 --> 00:27:46,220 use shows like this to debunk them but 610 00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:48,660 actually I hate to say this but I 611 00:27:54,170 --> 00:27:51,240 haven't met one who seems to have a high 612 00:27:55,910 --> 00:27:54,180 enough IQ to even bother with arguing 613 00:27:59,030 --> 00:27:55,920 with oh snap 614 00:28:00,740 --> 00:27:59,040 but huh yes to clarify you you do think 615 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:00,750 we went to the moon you just think the 616 00:28:06,350 --> 00:28:03,690 footage was face right yeah I mean I 617 00:28:08,180 --> 00:28:06,360 pretty much know that beyond any shadow 618 00:28:10,460 --> 00:28:08,190 of a doubt that we've had a secret space 619 00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:10,470 program since we brought the Nazis into 620 00:28:16,220 --> 00:28:14,160 a United States with the 50s and the 621 00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:16,230 Nazis if you know Joseph barrels work 622 00:28:20,270 --> 00:28:18,870 the Nazis were working on Stan Lee we're 623 00:28:22,910 --> 00:28:20,280 working on standard rocket technology 624 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:22,920 but they were working on extremely 625 00:28:29,780 --> 00:28:26,570 exotic anti-gravitational vehicles and 626 00:28:32,180 --> 00:28:29,790 we scooped them all up I don't believe 627 00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:32,190 there was ever a cold war I believe that 628 00:28:36,820 --> 00:28:34,110 there's a third party on top of both the 629 00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:36,830 Soviet Union in the US and that they 630 00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:39,360 parceled out the research so that the 631 00:28:42,380 --> 00:28:40,830 United States did one part of the 632 00:28:44,330 --> 00:28:42,390 research in the Soviet Union there 633 00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:44,340 another part of the research and then 634 00:28:49,210 --> 00:28:46,110 they put them in competition against 635 00:28:53,870 --> 00:28:49,220 each other so that there would be faster 636 00:28:55,490 --> 00:28:53,880 turnarounds and and almost is if they 637 00:28:57,980 --> 00:28:55,500 were in an emergency and they were 638 00:29:01,760 --> 00:28:57,990 working really fast to develop this 639 00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:01,770 technology and I believe that the red 640 00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:04,620 mercury that they discovered that the 641 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:07,380 Nazis discovered was perfected I know it 642 00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:09,090 was by both the Soviet Union United 643 00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:11,520 States and that this is the source of 644 00:29:16,220 --> 00:29:14,940 the anti-gravity machines I'm not saying 645 00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:16,230 there's not a lens another thing 646 00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:17,940 anything like that I'm just saying that 647 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:21,150 we have a lot of equipment that they 648 00:29:26,510 --> 00:29:23,010 don't want anyone to know that fact this 649 00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:26,520 is the ultimate conspiracy and they 650 00:29:32,510 --> 00:29:28,980 don't want anyone to find out about it 651 00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:32,520 and this technology is so astonishing 652 00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:35,360 because it's all derived from Tesla 653 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:38,120 and the German scientists that literally 654 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:39,770 we would never have an energy shortage 655 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:43,490 we would never have a Fukushima it's a 656 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:45,770 crime it is criminal what these guys are 657 00:29:51,210 --> 00:29:48,230 doing with this technology and we've got 658 00:29:53,860 --> 00:29:51,220 to find a way to get it released 659 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:53,870 well said man and that is quite the 660 00:29:58,090 --> 00:29:55,610 challenge but I want to talk to you 661 00:30:01,630 --> 00:29:58,100 about they who they are the sinister 662 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:01,640 ominous day that we hear about and this 663 00:30:04,810 --> 00:30:03,170 might be where the archons come in 664 00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,820 because you know a lot of people take 665 00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:06,559 this train up into the point where we're 666 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:08,510 talking about bilderberg's the Vatican 667 00:30:13,090 --> 00:30:10,970 the world's banking elite even a secret 668 00:30:15,690 --> 00:30:13,100 space program but this is where they get 669 00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:15,700 off when we talk about a nonhuman entity 670 00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:18,950 at the top of the pyramid but I think 671 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:20,960 the situation is more than a few rich 672 00:30:24,940 --> 00:30:22,850 white guys who got lucky putting money 673 00:30:27,220 --> 00:30:24,950 there's something strange going on and 674 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:27,230 it seems to be the area you talk about 675 00:30:34,450 --> 00:30:29,690 with the archons so what is going on 676 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:34,460 here man what's the deal well I mean we 677 00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:36,650 thought we're not really sure you know 678 00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:38,480 what the Gnostics said in the NAG 679 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:40,880 Hammadi about the archons is that they 680 00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:43,850 were an off planet spiritual parasite 681 00:30:51,820 --> 00:30:47,840 that wouldn't get into human beings and 682 00:30:54,669 --> 00:30:51,830 change the way that they acted and the 683 00:30:58,330 --> 00:30:54,679 way that they acted after this invasion 684 00:31:01,360 --> 00:30:58,340 was a nonhuman way so what is a nonhuman 685 00:31:03,940 --> 00:31:01,370 way well they described it as non 686 00:31:08,169 --> 00:31:03,950 empathy empathic so they can't feel 687 00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:08,179 people's feelings um inability to walk 688 00:31:15,370 --> 00:31:12,590 in another guy's shoes the inability to 689 00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:15,380 think about anybody other than yourself 690 00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:20,390 and and the Greek translation of the 691 00:31:29,620 --> 00:31:24,080 word Archon just merely means rulers so 692 00:31:32,650 --> 00:31:29,630 um what I I think now is that um the 693 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:32,660 earth may or may not have been invaded 694 00:31:39,270 --> 00:31:35,210 by off planet spiritual parasites I 695 00:31:43,030 --> 00:31:39,280 don't know but we know that there is a 696 00:31:46,030 --> 00:31:43,040 mental disorder called psychopathic 697 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:46,040 behavior and it mimics exactly what the 698 00:31:52,330 --> 00:31:49,010 Gnostics used to describe the archive 699 00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,340 lack of empathy inability to see in 700 00:31:59,380 --> 00:31:54,320 somebody else's way somebody else's 701 00:32:01,150 --> 00:31:59,390 thinks manipulative cunning you know all 702 00:32:03,850 --> 00:32:01,160 the things that they use are exactly 703 00:32:05,980 --> 00:32:03,860 what we today uses terms to describe 704 00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:05,990 people with psychopathic behavior 705 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:09,020 so I merely say okay if you don't want 706 00:32:13,510 --> 00:32:11,450 to make that leap into the off-planet 707 00:32:16,090 --> 00:32:13,520 spiritual parasite to totally understand 708 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:16,100 it because it is a rather wacky concept 709 00:32:21,420 --> 00:32:19,610 but you cannot deny that there is one 710 00:32:24,550 --> 00:32:21,430 two four percent of the human population 711 00:32:28,510 --> 00:32:24,560 that is completely psychopathically 712 00:32:30,220 --> 00:32:28,520 driven and that the psychopaths are in 713 00:32:33,220 --> 00:32:30,230 positions of power ie 714 00:32:34,810 --> 00:32:33,230 rulers they are presidents they are the 715 00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:34,820 heads of the military they run 716 00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:38,300 corporations they're the head of all the 717 00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:42,950 Marxist states Stalin Mao Obama George W 718 00:32:48,940 --> 00:32:46,910 these are all psychopaths and they're 719 00:32:52,570 --> 00:32:48,950 never going to ever do what we want 720 00:32:54,580 --> 00:32:52,580 because they can't do what we want they 721 00:32:57,730 --> 00:32:54,590 can only do what they want or what 722 00:32:59,710 --> 00:32:57,740 they're being told and so my conclusion 723 00:33:02,770 --> 00:32:59,720 is is that the people that run this 724 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:02,780 world in my view there are cons but if 725 00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:05,690 that offends you then we'll just agree 726 00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:08,300 that for Psychopaths if we're all cool 727 00:33:12,370 --> 00:33:10,640 on that then we now know that we're 728 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:12,380 dealing with a bunch of people who are 729 00:33:17,890 --> 00:33:15,130 psychopaths at the very least off planet 730 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:17,900 spiritual parasites at the very most and 731 00:33:24,850 --> 00:33:22,250 that we now can identify them and once 732 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:24,860 Aidid we can begin getting rid of them I 733 00:33:29,020 --> 00:33:26,930 don't mean killing them I mean getting 734 00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:29,030 them out of society so they can no 735 00:33:33,690 --> 00:33:31,190 longer have their input and their 736 00:33:37,420 --> 00:33:33,700 fingers in everything like they have now 737 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:37,430 right yeah I mean it is off-putting for 738 00:33:41,950 --> 00:33:39,650 a lot of people but I'm with you I think 739 00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:41,960 there's something very strange going on 740 00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:45,110 at the top that is more than just greedy 741 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:46,870 people 742 00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:48,850 concentrating their power and wealth 743 00:33:54,730 --> 00:33:51,710 well it is I agree and here's why 744 00:33:57,220 --> 00:33:54,740 because I know a lot of wealthy people 745 00:33:59,740 --> 00:33:57,230 and wealthy people destroy their 746 00:34:01,930 --> 00:33:59,750 families the wealth destroys their 747 00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:01,940 families it may not be the first 748 00:34:07,630 --> 00:34:02,720 generation 749 00:34:12,820 --> 00:34:07,640 the wealth the families are drug addict 750 00:34:14,830 --> 00:34:12,830 sex addicts alcoholics divorce all sorts 751 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:14,840 of perversions and everything that that 752 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:16,490 is how it goes when you have a lot of 753 00:34:21,250 --> 00:34:18,649 money what's interesting about the 754 00:34:24,940 --> 00:34:21,260 release that we're talking about is it's 755 00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:24,950 transgenerational it does not fall apart 756 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:28,399 it doesn't be generate the plan stays 757 00:34:34,330 --> 00:34:32,450 the plan everything stays on cue no 758 00:34:36,070 --> 00:34:34,340 matter if it was a hundred years ago 759 00:34:38,919 --> 00:34:36,080 when they did the Federal Reserve or 760 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:38,929 it's today and they're doing their false 761 00:34:43,450 --> 00:34:39,649 Flags 762 00:34:46,810 --> 00:34:43,460 we continuously see the same plan being 763 00:34:50,349 --> 00:34:46,820 executed supposedly by generations of 764 00:34:52,419 --> 00:34:50,359 people and to me that is absolutely 765 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:52,429 impossible human beings are just too 766 00:34:58,330 --> 00:34:55,129 much of a screw up to ever be able to 767 00:35:01,120 --> 00:34:58,340 carry out hundreds of years long plan 768 00:35:03,820 --> 00:35:01,130 and execute it perfectly without anybody 769 00:35:06,370 --> 00:35:03,830 getting their ego involved yet it is 770 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:06,380 being done and so I have chosen that 771 00:35:13,210 --> 00:35:11,119 this 2,000 year old writings of the NAG 772 00:35:16,210 --> 00:35:13,220 Hammadi about the archons are the 773 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:16,220 closest to what I perceive as to being 774 00:35:21,970 --> 00:35:18,650 the truth of anything else that I've 775 00:35:24,370 --> 00:35:21,980 seen yeah the NAG Hammadi that is the 776 00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,380 the document that I had heard so much 777 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:26,000 about it was can you tell us about how 778 00:35:30,250 --> 00:35:28,250 that was found it was found in clay jars 779 00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:30,260 or something like that yeah in Egypt in 780 00:35:39,790 --> 00:35:37,270 1945 right when the Illuminati had won 781 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:39,800 essentially the Illuminati had won their 782 00:35:45,070 --> 00:35:43,010 war they had won everything they were 783 00:35:46,810 --> 00:35:45,080 setting up their national security state 784 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:46,820 were setting up the CIA they were 785 00:35:51,579 --> 00:35:48,890 setting up the United Nations they were 786 00:35:55,210 --> 00:35:51,589 setting everything up exactly at that 787 00:35:57,310 --> 00:35:55,220 time a little boy followed his goat into 788 00:36:00,190 --> 00:35:57,320 a cave on a hillside in Egypt and 789 00:36:01,780 --> 00:36:00,200 discovered these clay jars now what's 790 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:01,790 interesting about these clay jars is 791 00:36:07,810 --> 00:36:05,810 they have writings and Scrolls in them 792 00:36:13,420 --> 00:36:07,820 and in these scrolls were writing and 793 00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:13,430 the writing have never been censored by 794 00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:15,660 Pope's or kings 795 00:36:22,610 --> 00:36:18,230 or politicians and so we could actually 796 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:22,620 get a sense of what people 2,000 years 797 00:36:27,650 --> 00:36:25,110 ago thought of the world without anybody 798 00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:27,660 into the in-between times interfering 799 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:30,240 like Constantine or the Pope's 800 00:36:34,850 --> 00:36:32,490 right and so we finally got a 801 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:34,860 translation of what people in the old 802 00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:37,890 days really thought and completely at 803 00:36:42,830 --> 00:36:40,440 variance to all the other writings now 804 00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:42,840 here's the thing Widener's first law 805 00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:45,630 says that those ideas which are the most 806 00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:47,820 suppressed are most likely the closest 807 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:50,640 to the truth so as soon as I found out 808 00:36:54,860 --> 00:36:52,710 about the NAG Hammadi like 15-20 years 809 00:36:57,710 --> 00:36:54,870 ago and started reading them assiduously 810 00:36:59,720 --> 00:36:57,720 I began wondering well who were these 811 00:37:02,690 --> 00:36:59,730 people that wrote all this stuff who 812 00:37:06,250 --> 00:37:02,700 were these Gnostics and I taken you know 813 00:37:08,570 --> 00:37:06,260 religious courses in college we were 814 00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:08,580 comparative religion courses and things 815 00:37:13,790 --> 00:37:11,310 and I didn't know what a gnostic was and 816 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:13,800 i that pissed me off a little bit 817 00:37:17,330 --> 00:37:15,210 because I thought I was a pretty 818 00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:17,340 intelligent guy I never heard of these 819 00:37:21,650 --> 00:37:19,920 people so then I began looking and lo 820 00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:21,660 and behold I discovered that not only 821 00:37:25,850 --> 00:37:23,910 were they a huge religion 2,000 years 822 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:25,860 ago but that they had been 823 00:37:31,460 --> 00:37:28,890 systematically wiped off the face of the 824 00:37:34,010 --> 00:37:31,470 earth and not just the people had been 825 00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:34,020 wiped off the face of everything they 826 00:37:38,090 --> 00:37:36,540 wrote had been burned and that is the 827 00:37:40,810 --> 00:37:38,100 reason why they burned the library at 828 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:40,820 Alexandria because it was a gnostic 829 00:37:49,490 --> 00:37:44,640 residue of all that they thought about 830 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:49,500 the world and the Christians burned down 831 00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:52,410 the library uh raped Hypatia in the 832 00:37:57,950 --> 00:37:54,180 middle of the streets of Alexandria and 833 00:38:00,440 --> 00:37:57,960 we went into the dark ages and they want 834 00:38:03,610 --> 00:38:00,450 us in the dark ages they want us stupid 835 00:38:06,290 --> 00:38:03,620 they don't want us figuring out anything 836 00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:06,300 man it is so refreshing you said this 837 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:09,000 because even in in high school I can 838 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:11,850 remember hearing about the you know your 839 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:14,370 European expansion and the destruction 840 00:38:19,490 --> 00:38:17,130 of of any culture they came across and I 841 00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:19,500 always thought that was so suspicious 842 00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:21,510 like your first law says you know I 843 00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:24,150 think it's a clue to the truth to put so 844 00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:26,460 much energy into the slash-and-burn 845 00:38:30,810 --> 00:38:27,760 campaign 846 00:38:31,890 --> 00:38:30,820 and destroying all knowledge like you 847 00:38:34,770 --> 00:38:31,900 know they go when everywhere on the 848 00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:34,780 planet to destroy any hint of old 849 00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:37,270 knowledge and then covered it up so this 850 00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,550 nag Hammadi texts I mean finding these 851 00:38:42,990 --> 00:38:41,200 things is pretty incredible and is this 852 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:43,000 where they talk about the archons is 853 00:38:48,030 --> 00:38:45,010 this what what do they say what's the 854 00:38:51,330 --> 00:38:48,040 storyline that they give out well they 855 00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:51,340 say that they have their creation story 856 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:52,960 which is a very interesting creation 857 00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:55,570 story they say that there's these beings 858 00:39:01,470 --> 00:38:58,450 called Aeons who reside near the center 859 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:01,480 of the galaxy and that one of these 860 00:39:10,410 --> 00:39:06,010 Aeons whose name was Sophia she decided 861 00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:10,420 that she was going to imbue matter the 862 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:14,560 third dimension with em with spirit with 863 00:39:20,970 --> 00:39:18,250 a higher dimensional source to see if he 864 00:39:23,490 --> 00:39:20,980 could do it and the other Aeons were 865 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:23,500 kind of transfixed by this whole idea 866 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:25,330 and they watched as Sophia went out to 867 00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:27,850 the edge of the galaxy to a little rocky 868 00:39:36,270 --> 00:39:34,240 world and made life and um but when she 869 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:36,280 made the life when she created the earth 870 00:39:48,030 --> 00:39:43,930 um she uh she created this place and it 871 00:39:52,290 --> 00:39:48,040 was just so chaotic um that nature was 872 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:52,300 so entangled that we couldn't it was 873 00:39:57,660 --> 00:39:55,690 just beyond any hope as to there being 874 00:40:01,650 --> 00:39:57,670 any any hope for consciousness because 875 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:01,660 there was so much entangled confusion 876 00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:03,490 within the nature within nature itself 877 00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:06,910 but when she created earth of life on 878 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:14,110 Earth she also created archons it was an 879 00:40:21,060 --> 00:40:17,610 accident and the archons 880 00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:21,070 came to earth and they thought of 881 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:23,710 themselves as kind of like a correction 882 00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:26,530 and so they decided they are going to 883 00:40:34,650 --> 00:40:31,300 correct Sophia's confused and tangled 884 00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:34,660 natural world and they were going to 885 00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:36,280 bring in some order 886 00:40:46,829 --> 00:40:40,480 ie rulers to this process 887 00:40:53,359 --> 00:40:46,839 and they began kind of coming in to us 888 00:40:57,089 --> 00:40:53,369 and forcing us into agriculture off of a 889 00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:57,099 off of a sort of a meat and vegetable 890 00:41:02,910 --> 00:41:00,240 dyed into a grain diet which weakened us 891 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:02,920 there they created the religions 892 00:41:08,089 --> 00:41:05,290 especially the three Western religions 893 00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:08,099 they were all designed to enslave us and 894 00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:11,920 um and we saw it's actually an anti 895 00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:15,670 earth movement an anti nature movement 896 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:18,310 the archons are they don't like nature 897 00:41:24,450 --> 00:41:22,089 they don't like human beings too much 898 00:41:26,849 --> 00:41:24,460 they don't like the fact that we can 899 00:41:29,550 --> 00:41:26,859 love each other unconditionally they 900 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:29,560 don't like the fact that we have souls 901 00:41:37,380 --> 00:41:33,570 and they do not they just and so they 902 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:37,390 want to control us they want to prove to 903 00:41:43,650 --> 00:41:40,570 themselves that they are better than us 904 00:41:46,740 --> 00:41:43,660 and that we're a bunch of fools and that 905 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:46,750 if they just deny us knowledge and kill 906 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:48,490 the people that are smart so that they 907 00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:50,770 can't pass knowledge on that they will 908 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:53,680 control the human race and then kind of 909 00:42:02,010 --> 00:41:57,930 harvest their souls they believe that 910 00:42:04,770 --> 00:42:02,020 that they can they can take our essence 911 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:04,780 from us and maybe they can I don't know 912 00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:07,210 I sense I'm not in our kind and so they 913 00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:11,260 create Wars and all these things that 914 00:42:17,010 --> 00:42:15,190 are extremely anti natural so everything 915 00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,020 that they do is unnatural they make 916 00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:19,119 straight lines instead of curved lines 917 00:42:25,319 --> 00:42:22,329 they created la for instance no offense 918 00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:25,329 oles great place but in la is the king 919 00:42:33,059 --> 00:42:29,230 of our conic the way that the archons 920 00:42:37,099 --> 00:42:33,069 would build a city they love sprawl they 921 00:42:40,109 --> 00:42:37,109 love horror movies and violence and 922 00:42:43,170 --> 00:42:40,119 perversions and right now they're on a 923 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:43,180 full-scale effort to apparently pervert 924 00:42:49,849 --> 00:42:46,960 all of humanity so that we fall further 925 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:49,859 and further away from our true source 926 00:42:58,650 --> 00:42:53,890 which is immortal and all-knowing and 927 00:43:01,890 --> 00:42:58,660 possible you know psychic abilities and 928 00:43:06,110 --> 00:43:01,900 things into basically animals and that's 929 00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:06,120 their goal a GI got a pretty simplistic 930 00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:09,040 question but throw it at you so what's 931 00:43:14,060 --> 00:43:11,110 the first step in overthrowing the 932 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:14,070 archons for us no Nora : 933 00:43:21,060 --> 00:43:18,370 first step is to first identify them we 934 00:43:24,750 --> 00:43:21,070 have to start identifying the archons 935 00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:24,760 via the internet my friend Thomas 936 00:43:29,550 --> 00:43:27,520 Sheridan is a rider on psychopaths says 937 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:29,560 that we should create like a Lord of the 938 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:32,170 Rings map showing you where more dorias 939 00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:35,530 and stay away from Mordor right and then 940 00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:38,470 we have to realize that the culture that 941 00:43:43,950 --> 00:43:40,750 they have created if you want to call it 942 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:43,960 a culture is a nightmare and it's not a 943 00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:46,690 culture at all it's just a rigged 944 00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:50,140 economic system and we need to create 945 00:44:00,690 --> 00:43:55,710 the parallel culture a parallel economy 946 00:44:03,150 --> 00:44:00,700 away from the arc otic a culture an 947 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:03,160 economy and not really go head-to-head 948 00:44:07,230 --> 00:44:05,770 with them because our cons when you go 949 00:44:10,020 --> 00:44:07,240 ahead to head with them the drop nukes 950 00:44:11,790 --> 00:44:10,030 on you and stuff they're third they have 951 00:44:14,970 --> 00:44:11,800 no empathy so they really they'll kill 952 00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:14,980 everybody around you to to get to you so 953 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:17,230 it's foolish to go up against them 954 00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:20,650 head-to-head so we have to identify them 955 00:44:24,930 --> 00:44:23,110 whether say oh he he's an Archon we 956 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:24,940 better let her stay away from him 957 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:27,370 completely because you cannot convert an 958 00:44:32,130 --> 00:44:30,490 Archon you cannot save a psychopath 959 00:44:34,590 --> 00:44:32,140 there's beyond saving 960 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:34,600 don't even bother saving our star trying 961 00:44:38,460 --> 00:44:36,640 to convert one as soon as you realize 962 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:38,470 that you're dealing with a psychopath 963 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:43,210 you need to get away fast and that is 964 00:44:47,490 --> 00:44:45,370 what we have to do with them we need to 965 00:44:49,950 --> 00:44:47,500 get away from the culture they've 966 00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:49,960 created we need to create small enclaves 967 00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:52,360 of like-minded people who are growing 968 00:44:56,730 --> 00:44:53,920 their own food and living their own 969 00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:56,740 culture and create something that is so 970 00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:00,640 attractive that the Arcana culture will 971 00:45:05,370 --> 00:45:03,550 just dissipate on its own and right now 972 00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:05,380 we're losing the battle because the 973 00:45:11,010 --> 00:45:07,990 archons are feeding us power soo 974 00:45:14,010 --> 00:45:11,020 pickles are feeding us sex daily on TV 975 00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:14,020 at night and violence him and the full 976 00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:17,910 walk on full bore assault on humanity 977 00:45:24,420 --> 00:45:22,000 has started we are now in spiritual war 978 00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:24,430 it used to be that it was coming but 979 00:45:29,250 --> 00:45:26,110 it's here now and the reason it's here 980 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:29,260 now is because we're identifying them 981 00:45:34,650 --> 00:45:32,410 and naming them and that is not what 982 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:34,660 they expected and I'm really happy to 983 00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:36,970 say that even David Icke is now coming 984 00:45:41,790 --> 00:45:39,280 on board and identifying the archons so 985 00:45:44,430 --> 00:45:41,800 we get a voice like David Icke to get in 986 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:44,440 there and help that could really throw 987 00:45:49,980 --> 00:45:46,930 it over for so I think the archons 988 00:45:52,859 --> 00:45:49,990 aren't actually beginning to get 989 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:52,869 cornered and if you've ever had a dog an 990 00:45:58,770 --> 00:45:55,090 angry dog cornered you know how really 991 00:46:01,130 --> 00:45:58,780 vicious that experience can be so it's a 992 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:01,140 dangerous time but at the same time 993 00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:03,610 archons don't know how to deal with 994 00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:07,240 courage and so when people stand up to 995 00:46:11,460 --> 00:46:09,670 them you get that you get fallacious 996 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:11,470 arguments they won't debate you I 997 00:46:15,870 --> 00:46:13,930 guarantee it you will not get an Archon 998 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:15,880 to debate you they will avoid debate at 999 00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:18,160 all costs because they can't debate they 1000 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:20,800 cannot exchange intellectual ideas 1001 00:46:26,820 --> 00:46:24,490 because they're just shells of beings 1002 00:46:29,010 --> 00:46:26,830 are not real I wish I was pulled over by 1003 00:46:30,660 --> 00:46:29,020 more Archon police officers because they 1004 00:46:33,810 --> 00:46:30,670 seem to be very willing to debate me 1005 00:46:36,030 --> 00:46:33,820 unfortunately well there are so many 1006 00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:36,040 students of their philosophy whether you 1007 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:37,510 know whether we're talking about literal 1008 00:46:43,140 --> 00:46:39,250 archons or not there's they've 1009 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:43,150 definitely created a system where we are 1010 00:46:47,550 --> 00:46:45,130 students of their philosophy to a tee 1011 00:46:49,770 --> 00:46:47,560 their values if you know if you want to 1012 00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:49,780 call them values of any kind are put in 1013 00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:51,280 the forefront I mean that's that's 1014 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:53,230 definite but you were talking mentioned 1015 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:54,730 earlier right you mentioned David Icke 1016 00:46:59,760 --> 00:46:57,210 is he drawing a distinction between 1017 00:47:03,240 --> 00:46:59,770 reptilians and archons or is he changing 1018 00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:03,250 his view or these different echoes I'm 1019 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:04,600 not going to speak for David because 1020 00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:06,730 there I can't tell you that but I will 1021 00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:09,670 say this according to Nagas body the 1022 00:47:16,859 --> 00:47:13,510 archons can create almost fictions in 1023 00:47:20,010 --> 00:47:16,869 all directions so you don't know what 1024 00:47:21,809 --> 00:47:20,020 you're looking at so um they could be 1025 00:47:26,370 --> 00:47:21,819 reptilian they are described as 1026 00:47:28,650 --> 00:47:26,380 Trillian in the NAG Hammadi so but once 1027 00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:28,660 you understand that the archives create 1028 00:47:33,870 --> 00:47:31,599 things out of thin air then you have to 1029 00:47:36,959 --> 00:47:33,880 start you have to kind of step way back 1030 00:47:41,459 --> 00:47:36,969 and go away and everything I'm looking 1031 00:47:43,289 --> 00:47:41,469 at is false and then from that premise 1032 00:47:46,890 --> 00:47:43,299 you can go forth and then figure out 1033 00:47:49,140 --> 00:47:46,900 reality once you say to yourself that a 1034 00:47:52,829 --> 00:47:49,150 I'm touching this but is it real and 1035 00:47:56,039 --> 00:47:52,839 then finding a way to understand what is 1036 00:47:58,229 --> 00:47:56,049 real real and what is just a narcotic 1037 00:48:00,930 --> 00:47:58,239 influence is really the trick and I 1038 00:48:04,999 --> 00:48:00,940 think that's the goal for all of us over 1039 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:05,009 say the next five or ten years is this 1040 00:48:12,029 --> 00:48:09,130 drama and ensues I think we're going to 1041 00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:12,039 start identifying them on the Internet 1042 00:48:16,259 --> 00:48:13,839 we're going to start identifying well 1043 00:48:17,549 --> 00:48:16,269 everything about them and I think for 1044 00:48:19,949 --> 00:48:17,559 the next few years we're going to learn 1045 00:48:22,259 --> 00:48:19,959 more and more and more and they're and 1046 00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:22,269 they're even they even now know that 1047 00:48:26,309 --> 00:48:24,160 they're being identified they're putting 1048 00:48:28,439 --> 00:48:26,319 out movies like Seven Psychopaths to 1049 00:48:32,339 --> 00:48:28,449 show that they're actually cute and 1050 00:48:33,779 --> 00:48:32,349 cuddly and and funny and and they're 1051 00:48:35,549 --> 00:48:33,789 doing this all over the place there's 1052 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:35,559 even a book out now about how 1053 00:48:40,410 --> 00:48:38,410 Psychopaths being a Psychopaths can help 1054 00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:40,420 you in the business world you know I 1055 00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:42,400 mean they're like really kind of trained 1056 00:48:46,469 --> 00:48:43,599 coming out coming out of the closet 1057 00:48:50,939 --> 00:48:46,479 right now and we can't let them get away 1058 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:50,949 with this man well let's talk about the 1059 00:48:56,039 --> 00:48:53,650 real reality a myth word covered in all 1060 00:48:59,130 --> 00:48:56,049 their failed realities these false 1061 00:49:00,180 --> 00:48:59,140 paradigms these uh false values what 1062 00:49:03,029 --> 00:49:00,190 what do you think are some of the 1063 00:49:06,479 --> 00:49:03,039 biggest secrets that have been lost 1064 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:06,489 today that they've covered up all that 1065 00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:11,130 we are the not only covered it up they 1066 00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:16,630 and the forces into dis using our 1067 00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:19,089 psychic abilities the Catholic Church we 1068 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:22,630 went through Europe and killed everybody 1069 00:49:27,930 --> 00:49:24,729 who had psychic abilities everybody that 1070 00:49:30,359 --> 00:49:27,940 they found if you're even whispered that 1071 00:49:31,890 --> 00:49:30,369 you had some kind of unusual power you 1072 00:49:35,230 --> 00:49:31,900 were taken from the Inquisition and 1073 00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:35,240 killed there for a whole soir 1074 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:38,510 the people with certain talents were 1075 00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:41,690 removed from and their progeny were 1076 00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:46,730 removed so that's one of the things the 1077 00:49:52,660 --> 00:49:49,369 other thing is is that they made us 1078 00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:52,670 aware of our racial differences so that 1079 00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:55,040 we now judge each other on our skin 1080 00:49:59,859 --> 00:49:57,200 color whereas before the archons we 1081 00:50:01,900 --> 00:49:59,869 didn't even care you can go look at the 1082 00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:01,910 Metropolitan Museum in New York or go to 1083 00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:04,540 London the British Museum and look at 1084 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:07,280 paintings and engravings from ancient 1085 00:50:14,260 --> 00:50:10,610 Egypt from 2000 BC and you'll see that 1086 00:50:17,230 --> 00:50:14,270 all the races are being pictured in like 1087 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:17,240 in the cities and the streets and stuff 1088 00:50:22,270 --> 00:50:20,090 there was no racism this is placed it on 1089 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:22,280 us I got hatred of each other because of 1090 00:50:26,830 --> 00:50:24,650 religions is all an Archon trick 1091 00:50:29,770 --> 00:50:26,840 believing there's Messiah that's going 1092 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:29,780 to come save you is the aliens or Obama 1093 00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:32,330 or Jesus if they were trick that's a 1094 00:50:37,870 --> 00:50:33,440 huge one that's one of their biggest 1095 00:50:41,140 --> 00:50:37,880 ones the archons are always beating you 1096 00:50:43,690 --> 00:50:41,150 up and nasty beating you up kicking your 1097 00:50:45,730 --> 00:50:43,700 guts and stomping on your face and then 1098 00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:45,740 when you when they get done doing it and 1099 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:47,510 you look up and you say why did you do 1100 00:50:51,099 --> 00:50:49,970 that they look at you they say I did it 1101 00:50:54,340 --> 00:50:51,109 because I love you 1102 00:50:57,220 --> 00:50:54,350 that's the archons they that's their 1103 00:51:00,280 --> 00:50:57,230 idea of what love is it is to knock the 1104 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:00,290 living snot out of you constantly and 1105 00:51:03,070 --> 00:51:01,490 telling you that they're doing it 1106 00:51:06,849 --> 00:51:03,080 because it's good for you and that 1107 00:51:10,030 --> 00:51:06,859 that's an Archon trick and this thing is 1108 00:51:13,150 --> 00:51:10,040 it's like endemic and it can be caught 1109 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:13,160 and spread so a child is abused by his 1110 00:51:18,609 --> 00:51:16,010 dad and then he becomes abuser of his 1111 00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:18,619 children who then it begins abusing his 1112 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:23,680 children and so the Archon interface um 1113 00:51:31,210 --> 00:51:26,810 there's a generational and continuous 1114 00:51:33,370 --> 00:51:31,220 and and it's contagious yeah man that 1115 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:33,380 Savior motif that's a bad one I mean I 1116 00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:35,210 know you've worked with David Wilcock I 1117 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:37,040 mean he's made me hopeful in the past 1118 00:51:41,710 --> 00:51:39,890 with ideas of covert wars playing out 1119 00:51:43,930 --> 00:51:41,720 where we have some good Illuminati that 1120 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:43,940 are on the cusp of a real overthrow and 1121 00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:44,930 we're all going to get 10 million 1122 00:51:49,150 --> 00:51:46,400 dollars and everything will be revealed 1123 00:51:51,370 --> 00:51:49,160 and as much as I love those 1124 00:51:54,730 --> 00:51:51,380 ideas I just think I'm too cynical to 1125 00:51:56,260 --> 00:51:54,740 believe that that's going to happen yeah 1126 00:51:57,339 --> 00:51:56,270 actually I would have a lot of talks 1127 00:51:59,200 --> 00:51:57,349 with David lately 1128 00:52:02,500 --> 00:51:59,210 and I think even he's starting to 1129 00:52:04,329 --> 00:52:02,510 realize that there is a rogue group that 1130 00:52:06,700 --> 00:52:04,339 is fighting against the Illuminati 1131 00:52:08,829 --> 00:52:06,710 that's in our insiders I have no doubt 1132 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:08,839 about that but I'm not convinced that 1133 00:52:13,329 --> 00:52:12,170 rogue group is anywhere on our side you 1134 00:52:16,510 --> 00:52:13,339 know I just just they're fighting for 1135 00:52:18,370 --> 00:52:16,520 themselves so you know do do I want them 1136 00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:18,380 to fight each other oh yeah 1137 00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:20,240 fight each other to death kill each 1138 00:52:25,539 --> 00:52:23,510 other guys do it you know don't don't no 1139 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:25,549 collateral damage just kill each other 1140 00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:28,690 ID before that like no tomorrow but 1141 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:31,910 unfortunately this thing is more 1142 00:52:36,339 --> 00:52:33,890 complicated and we could ever dream and 1143 00:52:39,099 --> 00:52:36,349 we're in the endgame right now it's 1144 00:52:41,410 --> 00:52:39,109 really kind of amazing to watch well 1145 00:52:43,210 --> 00:52:41,420 another area that is super fascinating 1146 00:52:45,220 --> 00:52:43,220 to me is I know you've worked with 1147 00:52:47,020 --> 00:52:45,230 Richard Hoagland on this stuff but he's 1148 00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:47,030 got some really interesting research on 1149 00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:49,849 space in our solar system and I've yet 1150 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:51,920 to have him come on the show but what is 1151 00:52:55,089 --> 00:52:53,450 your take on the sources because it 1152 00:52:56,829 --> 00:52:55,099 seems to be that there's a lot of the 1153 00:52:59,799 --> 00:52:56,839 big lies that the archons have told us 1154 00:53:06,039 --> 00:52:59,809 revolve around the solar system the Moon 1155 00:53:09,940 --> 00:53:06,049 Mars even Saturn oh yeah I have a son a 1156 00:53:11,289 --> 00:53:09,950 week ago a third of the son went missing 1157 00:53:12,670 --> 00:53:11,299 I don't know if you know that I did see 1158 00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:12,680 that the other day that's a recent right 1159 00:53:18,099 --> 00:53:15,710 yeah yeah I mean the Sun is not what we 1160 00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:18,109 think it is the Sun is not a big huge 1161 00:53:24,730 --> 00:53:21,049 ball of nuclear fission the Sun is 1162 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:24,740 actually Hollow and it's has an outer 1163 00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:28,130 edge which is plasma which is what we're 1164 00:53:32,799 --> 00:53:30,559 seeing and every time there's a Sun SPOT 1165 00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:32,809 you're looking into the hollow Sun it's 1166 00:53:37,740 --> 00:53:35,119 really the electric earth the electric 1167 00:53:40,539 --> 00:53:37,750 universe and these ideas will come forth 1168 00:53:42,190 --> 00:53:40,549 of yours come out too because the last 1169 00:53:44,799 --> 00:53:42,200 thing the archons want you to figure out 1170 00:53:46,750 --> 00:53:44,809 is that you're actually electricity more 1171 00:53:50,170 --> 00:53:46,760 than anything else that the world the 1172 00:53:54,190 --> 00:53:50,180 earth the solar system the galaxy is run 1173 00:53:56,140 --> 00:53:54,200 by electricity not by proteins or all 1174 00:53:57,519 --> 00:53:56,150 these other things and when we figure 1175 00:54:00,760 --> 00:53:57,529 that out then we're going to realize 1176 00:54:02,410 --> 00:54:00,770 that actually it's you know your health 1177 00:54:06,490 --> 00:54:02,420 is governed by this too 1178 00:54:08,290 --> 00:54:06,500 and there's a dr. Robert o Yong who is 1179 00:54:11,170 --> 00:54:08,300 writing books about how to electrify 1180 00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:11,180 yourself you know this guy's proof 1181 00:54:15,010 --> 00:54:13,250 positive that he's onto the right thing 1182 00:54:18,370 --> 00:54:15,020 because he's 62 years old looks like 1183 00:54:22,260 --> 00:54:18,380 he's about 40 or maybe 35 and his wife 1184 00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:22,270 is 61 and she's like she's about 30 and 1185 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:25,520 and again these are all discoveries that 1186 00:54:29,650 --> 00:54:27,770 are coming out right now there's the 1187 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:29,660 revolution that's occurring on the 1188 00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:32,090 Internet is a revolution against the 1189 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:34,640 archons we just don't know it yet but we 1190 00:54:39,730 --> 00:54:37,370 will as time goes on we'll realize that 1191 00:54:41,980 --> 00:54:39,740 we don't need their medical system we 1192 00:54:44,380 --> 00:54:41,990 don't need their legal system we don't 1193 00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:44,390 need their economy we don't need their 1194 00:54:49,540 --> 00:54:46,160 crappy food we certainly don't need 1195 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:49,550 their Wars or their lives and you know 1196 00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:50,930 so it's going to start out with just a 1197 00:54:56,980 --> 00:54:53,200 few people realizing this creating 1198 00:55:00,400 --> 00:54:56,990 parallel cultures probably via the 1199 00:55:03,790 --> 00:55:00,410 internet and then we're going to end up 1200 00:55:05,470 --> 00:55:03,800 being healthy and alive and the people 1201 00:55:07,540 --> 00:55:05,480 that don't believe in any of this stuff 1202 00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:07,550 are going to be fat and unhealthy and 1203 00:55:11,590 --> 00:55:09,680 they're going to die and that's like 1204 00:55:13,870 --> 00:55:11,600 unless the archives to start killing 1205 00:55:15,970 --> 00:55:13,880 everybody I knock that's where this is 1206 00:55:18,670 --> 00:55:15,980 going to end and it's going to be you 15 1207 00:55:21,850 --> 00:55:18,680 or 20 years before this happens but the 1208 00:55:23,770 --> 00:55:21,860 entire human race is wising up all at 1209 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:23,780 the same time that's never happened 1210 00:55:28,660 --> 00:55:26,330 before in human history all the smartest 1211 00:55:31,420 --> 00:55:28,670 people on earth are all reaching the 1212 00:55:34,180 --> 00:55:31,430 same conclusions about reality all at 1213 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:34,190 the same time right now and you know the 1214 00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:36,770 leading edge ones are looking at the 1215 00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:38,240 archons or the ones that art is 1216 00:55:42,910 --> 00:55:40,640 leading-edge are looking at say just the 1217 00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:42,920 Illuminati or corruption that kind of 1218 00:55:48,670 --> 00:55:46,730 thing but eventually every inquiring 1219 00:55:51,580 --> 00:55:48,680 mind is going to ask themselves you know 1220 00:55:53,530 --> 00:55:51,590 questions like how the hell are the 1221 00:55:57,970 --> 00:55:53,540 elites so smart that they can pull this 1222 00:56:00,040 --> 00:55:57,980 off and on and though we started going 1223 00:56:02,650 --> 00:56:00,050 down that road that's when you get into 1224 00:56:05,710 --> 00:56:02,660 dangerous areas of archons and 1225 00:56:09,010 --> 00:56:05,720 Psychopaths and off planet intelligences 1226 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:09,020 and even demonic things you know Stanley 1227 00:56:15,710 --> 00:56:12,050 Kubrick I believe you approach the arcon 1228 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:15,720 question in three different films 1229 00:56:21,470 --> 00:56:19,770 the first one was 2001 in which he 1230 00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:21,480 posited that they were off planet 1231 00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:24,000 intelligences the second movie where he 1232 00:56:28,010 --> 00:56:26,160 talks about the archons is in the 1233 00:56:30,380 --> 00:56:28,020 shining when he says that there are 1234 00:56:32,210 --> 00:56:30,390 demonic influences that can get inside 1235 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:32,220 your head and turn you into you know 1236 00:56:37,820 --> 00:56:34,530 someone wants to kill your family the 1237 00:56:40,460 --> 00:56:37,830 third movie talking about the archons is 1238 00:56:42,890 --> 00:56:40,470 Eyes Wide Shut in which now positing 1239 00:56:46,460 --> 00:56:42,900 that the ruling elite are these archons 1240 00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:46,470 and I say it's all three I say it's off 1241 00:56:51,710 --> 00:56:48,960 planet intelligences who also appear to 1242 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:51,720 look like demonic influences who are 1243 00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:55,010 also our ruling elites so it's all three 1244 00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:58,530 it is a an all-encompassing thing it's a 1245 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:00,480 lot to take in but you I want to touch 1246 00:57:04,460 --> 00:57:02,370 on so you've mentioned electricity that 1247 00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:04,470 we are electricity and I think this gets 1248 00:57:09,710 --> 00:57:07,440 into the idea of true human potential 1249 00:57:11,930 --> 00:57:09,720 which is deep deep down that rabbit hole 1250 00:57:14,990 --> 00:57:11,940 the light body stuff like that because 1251 00:57:17,870 --> 00:57:15,000 on the deeper levels of diet and 1252 00:57:20,030 --> 00:57:17,880 vaccines and chemtrails and HAARP and 1253 00:57:22,220 --> 00:57:20,040 fluoride and all that stuff that affects 1254 00:57:23,930 --> 00:57:22,230 our biology it seems like the simple 1255 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:23,940 explanation is well if if they're all 1256 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:26,010 sick and tired all the time it makes it 1257 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:28,290 hard for them to rebel and will remain 1258 00:57:32,180 --> 00:57:30,210 weak and docile which is true but on a 1259 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:32,190 deeper level it seems like the archons 1260 00:57:36,530 --> 00:57:34,050 or the true elites are hitting us with 1261 00:57:38,450 --> 00:57:36,540 all these chemicals if they're beating 1262 00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:38,460 back a powerful force deep within the 1263 00:57:42,590 --> 00:57:40,380 individual I mean does that make is that 1264 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:42,600 kind of where you come from yeah that's 1265 00:57:46,430 --> 00:57:45,810 it we are already fully realized we just 1266 00:57:49,690 --> 00:57:46,440 don't know it 1267 00:57:53,690 --> 00:57:49,700 we fully realize we are already on 1268 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:53,700 extremely powerful beings I don't know 1269 00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:56,610 if you ever studied Taoism but now 1270 00:58:02,990 --> 00:57:58,290 there's a little bit actually watch 1271 00:58:04,220 --> 00:58:03,000 there's a movie on YouTube who's taken 1272 00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:04,230 with these two brothers and went to 1273 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:07,440 Indonesia in the I think in the 70s with 1274 00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:10,170 their 16 millimeter camera and to show 1275 00:58:15,260 --> 00:58:12,960 you know what people were like these 1276 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:15,270 spirit psychics and spiritual people and 1277 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:17,690 they've got a Taoist master who 1278 00:58:22,850 --> 00:58:20,370 literally puts his hand over a piece of 1279 00:58:26,180 --> 00:58:22,860 paper and lights it on fire really three 1280 00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:26,190 from three feet away yeah on film and so 1281 00:58:29,220 --> 00:58:28,680 we have these abilities it's just that 1282 00:58:33,180 --> 00:58:29,230 these are 1283 00:58:36,330 --> 00:58:33,190 Conn's know that if we let they let 1284 00:58:37,950 --> 00:58:36,340 those abilities atrophy they're safe but 1285 00:58:41,390 --> 00:58:37,960 if we don't let those abilities 1286 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:41,400 attribute we find ways to bring our 1287 00:58:49,650 --> 00:58:45,690 powerful beings to their full fruition 1288 00:58:51,630 --> 00:58:49,660 the archons are finished and they know 1289 00:58:53,010 --> 00:58:51,640 it and they're so frightened of that 1290 00:58:56,790 --> 00:58:53,020 they're so frightened of a great 1291 00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,800 awakening a spiritual liberation and we 1292 00:59:01,170 --> 00:58:58,720 have to all of us everybody listening 1293 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:01,180 has to are all the soldiers in this 1294 00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:03,850 rebellion we're all frontline soldiers 1295 00:59:09,090 --> 00:59:06,310 we have to have courage we have to stand 1296 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:09,100 up and we have to realize that we are so 1297 00:59:14,940 --> 00:59:11,530 much more powerful than we've been led 1298 00:59:17,460 --> 00:59:14,950 to believe take take the Arcana 1299 00:59:19,830 --> 00:59:17,470 Convention of evolution what is 1300 00:59:21,590 --> 00:59:19,840 evolution saying evolution is saying and 1301 00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:21,600 I'm not going to argue about the science 1302 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:24,160 evolution is saying that there's 1303 00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:26,890 something in the future we're headed 1304 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:30,640 towards and Sunday now if we treat 1305 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:32,050 ourselves right and we do everything 1306 00:59:38,670 --> 00:59:34,210 right the human species is going to 1307 00:59:41,580 --> 00:59:38,680 evolve magically evolve into something 1308 00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:41,590 better well that's exactly the opposite 1309 00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:43,990 of the truth the truth is is that we're 1310 00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:48,400 all ready there they made us asleep we 1311 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:51,369 need to wake up and once you wake up you 1312 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:53,970 realize how really powerful you are and 1313 01:00:02,220 --> 00:59:57,010 that is the one thing that they cannot 1314 01:00:04,770 --> 01:00:02,230 ever let happen yeah Jay mentioned a 1315 01:00:07,590 --> 01:00:04,780 shamanic experience could you talk a bit 1316 01:00:10,260 --> 01:00:07,600 a little bit more about that and the 1317 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:10,270 importance of shamanic experiences and 1318 01:00:19,010 --> 01:00:12,970 how these can help us break free of the 1319 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:19,020 archons or the matrix yeah so you know 1320 01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:21,730 you can have it a shamanic experience 1321 01:00:26,460 --> 01:00:23,920 you know you go the jungle and you can 1322 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:26,470 take ayahuasca there you can drum as 1323 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:29,170 many ways that Ramana kyx perience but 1324 01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:31,330 what is the point of shamanic experience 1325 01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:35,680 the point is is to shatter your paradigm 1326 01:00:41,609 --> 01:00:38,830 to make you realize all the things that 1327 01:00:43,170 --> 01:00:41,619 you thought aren't really true and that 1328 01:00:46,020 --> 01:00:43,180 means that you got to go back to school 1329 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:46,030 we'll start doing your homework okay so 1330 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:48,730 I have minor shamanic experiences all 1331 01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:53,530 the time for instance I will go to the 1332 01:00:58,410 --> 01:00:55,599 library or bookstore and I will buy a 1333 01:01:00,960 --> 01:00:58,420 book on a subject that is exactly the 1334 01:01:02,849 --> 01:01:00,970 opposite of what I believe I will make 1335 01:01:05,730 --> 01:01:02,859 sure that I buy a book and read the book 1336 01:01:08,790 --> 01:01:05,740 that's exactly the opposite of my belief 1337 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:08,800 system why do I do that it's to shatter 1338 01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:11,770 my belief system if I if I start reading 1339 01:01:15,180 --> 01:01:13,089 the books and fundamentalist 1340 01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:15,190 Christianity and I start finding myself 1341 01:01:19,170 --> 01:01:17,440 agreeing with 40 or 50 percent of what 1342 01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:19,180 I'm reading and I'm totally horrified 1343 01:01:22,859 --> 01:01:21,849 that I'm agreeing with it what is that 1344 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:22,869 doing to my head 1345 01:01:27,150 --> 01:01:25,690 well it's I'm presenting new ideas into 1346 01:01:30,270 --> 01:01:27,160 my head that I never considered before 1347 01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:30,280 and that's causing me to rethink my 1348 01:01:34,890 --> 01:01:31,510 previous positions 1349 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:34,900 that's a shamanism does it causes you to 1350 01:01:42,329 --> 01:01:37,930 preview to rethink the positions that 1351 01:01:45,900 --> 01:01:42,339 you held previously so I was a 1352 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:45,910 journalist I believed in science I was 1353 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:49,690 an atheist and I had a shamanic 1354 01:01:55,140 --> 01:01:52,210 experience which literally shattered me 1355 01:01:57,900 --> 01:01:55,150 into a billion pieces and I had it took 1356 01:01:59,910 --> 01:01:57,910 me years to regroup and when I regrouped 1357 01:02:02,490 --> 01:01:59,920 I was a completely different person I 1358 01:02:04,530 --> 01:02:02,500 didn't believe any of the things that I 1359 01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:04,540 believed before and now of course I 1360 01:02:09,870 --> 01:02:06,640 realized I was just Archon influences 1361 01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:09,880 from my from the colleges and teachers 1362 01:02:14,220 --> 01:02:11,440 and the churches and all the other 1363 01:02:16,829 --> 01:02:14,230 things that were part of my life and um 1364 01:02:18,539 --> 01:02:16,839 and so that's that's why it's really 1365 01:02:21,089 --> 01:02:18,549 important I think for everyone to have a 1366 01:02:23,579 --> 01:02:21,099 shamanic experience my old friend 1367 01:02:26,250 --> 01:02:23,589 Terence Mckenna is to say that not 1368 01:02:27,660 --> 01:02:26,260 having a shamanic experience is like 1369 01:02:30,450 --> 01:02:27,670 going through your entire life without 1370 01:02:32,190 --> 01:02:30,460 having sex I mean it's like you can't 1371 01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:32,200 describe what it's like to anybody if 1372 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:33,520 they haven't had it completely 1373 01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:35,730 impossible to describe sex to a eunuch 1374 01:02:42,750 --> 01:02:39,609 so you know I encourage everyone to find 1375 01:02:45,150 --> 01:02:42,760 their own path and to Daniel Pinchbeck 1376 01:02:48,030 --> 01:02:45,160 says you know break open the head you'll 1377 01:02:50,670 --> 01:02:48,040 smash your head literally to smash your 1378 01:02:52,700 --> 01:02:50,680 psyche into a million pieces and regroup 1379 01:02:56,170 --> 01:02:52,710 I know it's a pain in the ass but um 1380 01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:56,180 you'll be better off for it amen 1381 01:03:01,089 --> 01:02:57,680 and let me ask you one more thing about 1382 01:03:03,790 --> 01:03:01,099 the light body because is it I'm really 1383 01:03:05,380 --> 01:03:03,800 into the control mechanisms and all 1384 01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:05,390 these things and then it always goes 1385 01:03:10,660 --> 01:03:08,329 into a sort of a new agey territory with 1386 01:03:13,450 --> 01:03:10,670 the light body and meditation and true 1387 01:03:16,030 --> 01:03:13,460 reality and this is where I'm having a 1388 01:03:17,650 --> 01:03:16,040 disconnect at least in my in my personal 1389 01:03:20,319 --> 01:03:17,660 life because I've gone to a Reiki Master 1390 01:03:22,660 --> 01:03:20,329 with no real effect and I worry that 1391 01:03:26,260 --> 01:03:22,670 this is another version of the Saviour 1392 01:03:28,059 --> 01:03:26,270 motif that it's all internal and explain 1393 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:28,069 to me why it isn't and what can someone 1394 01:03:33,059 --> 01:03:30,650 do to really try to to find some 1395 01:03:38,530 --> 01:03:33,069 validation of this in their own life 1396 01:03:40,569 --> 01:03:38,540 well that's a great question um so there 1397 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:40,579 is a way that you can do this and 1398 01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:44,210 validate it for yourself so I'll do it 1399 01:03:48,819 --> 01:03:47,359 like this so forget all the Lightbody 1400 01:03:51,299 --> 01:03:48,829 and meditation stuff you can go to that 1401 01:03:56,589 --> 01:03:51,309 later let's suppose try it this way 1402 01:04:00,280 --> 01:03:56,599 you're we I you Adam everybody listening 1403 01:04:03,730 --> 01:04:00,290 right now we are all in a dream we are 1404 01:04:06,099 --> 01:04:03,740 in a dream and we're dreaming and we're 1405 01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:06,109 not in control of our dream the 1406 01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:08,089 difference between dreaming and lucid 1407 01:04:13,270 --> 01:04:10,400 dreaming is that in a lucid dream you're 1408 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:13,280 in control of your dream okay we are 1409 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:15,410 none of us well maybe some of us but 1410 01:04:20,950 --> 01:04:17,450 most of us are just dreaming our dream 1411 01:04:22,809 --> 01:04:20,960 and not lucidly dreaming our dream okay 1412 01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:22,819 so let's just say that that's true let's 1413 01:04:28,329 --> 01:04:25,609 say that this is a dream okay now I'm 1414 01:04:30,940 --> 01:04:28,339 telling you that you can wake up in your 1415 01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:30,950 dream you can begin controlling your 1416 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:35,089 dream lucidly controlling it so um I had 1417 01:04:41,500 --> 01:04:37,730 a very very very very advanced person 1418 01:04:42,940 --> 01:04:41,510 tell me this 20 years ago and I said 1419 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:42,950 well you know that's all great and 1420 01:04:47,260 --> 01:04:44,690 everything and yeah you're successful 1421 01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:47,270 all that but I mean how do I prove it he 1422 01:04:52,569 --> 01:04:50,329 says just pick one thing just pick one 1423 01:04:54,220 --> 01:04:52,579 thing make sure it isn't greedy don't 1424 01:04:57,910 --> 01:04:54,230 don't wish for money because that's a 1425 01:05:01,690 --> 01:04:57,920 sure way to to to have this not succeed 1426 01:05:04,420 --> 01:05:01,700 just do something like you want your 1427 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:04,430 little brother to be more successful or 1428 01:05:09,470 --> 01:05:06,290 you want to make sure he doesn't go to 1429 01:05:11,540 --> 01:05:09,480 prison or you want you know your sister 1430 01:05:14,270 --> 01:05:11,550 to find a man getting married something 1431 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:14,280 like that just start working I and you 1432 01:05:20,210 --> 01:05:17,210 will see because this is testable that 1433 01:05:21,980 --> 01:05:20,220 you are in control of your dream that's 1434 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:21,990 not gonna happen right away you'll take 1435 01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:24,330 a few months maybe even a year for the 1436 01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:26,760 for you to gain control of your dream 1437 01:05:32,599 --> 01:05:29,910 but it is entirely and absolutely 1438 01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:32,609 possible and I am living proof of it and 1439 01:05:37,550 --> 01:05:35,369 I'm not the only one I sense pass this 1440 01:05:40,609 --> 01:05:37,560 information on to many other people who 1441 01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:40,619 began lucidly living their life and when 1442 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:42,960 they did they became in control of their 1443 01:05:49,099 --> 01:05:46,170 life and by gaining control of their 1444 01:05:51,740 --> 01:05:49,109 life they lost their uncertainty they 1445 01:05:54,980 --> 01:05:51,750 gained confidence this led them even 1446 01:05:59,480 --> 01:05:54,990 into larger amounts of control of their 1447 01:06:03,470 --> 01:05:59,490 life and until they become spiritually 1448 01:06:05,780 --> 01:06:03,480 aware and then the meditation the light 1449 01:06:06,890 --> 01:06:05,790 body and all the rest of it begins to 1450 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:06,900 finally make sense 1451 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:08,850 because what are you doing when you're 1452 01:06:14,060 --> 01:06:11,250 meditating you're pulling yourself out 1453 01:06:16,310 --> 01:06:14,070 of the life stream and you're going 1454 01:06:19,700 --> 01:06:16,320 inwards you're big you are you're 1455 01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:19,710 beginning to get the discipline 1456 01:06:28,060 --> 01:06:22,200 necessary to begin controlling your life 1457 01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:28,070 to living a lucid life and in the end we 1458 01:06:32,359 --> 01:06:30,000 finally get to the point where we 1459 01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:32,369 realize that it's possible for the human 1460 01:06:37,550 --> 01:06:35,310 mind to even make the human body 1461 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:37,560 immortal I know this sounds all really 1462 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:40,650 wild and crazy but it's all true and 1463 01:06:44,540 --> 01:06:42,210 it's based in fact and you can do it 1464 01:06:46,910 --> 01:06:44,550 yourself so start everyone start living 1465 01:06:49,220 --> 01:06:46,920 the life that you want to live not the 1466 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:49,230 life they want you to live and then 1467 01:06:53,420 --> 01:06:50,850 you'll find as you live the life that 1468 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:53,430 you want to live that everything you 1469 01:06:58,609 --> 01:06:56,730 want comes to fruition I mean that 1470 01:07:00,830 --> 01:06:58,619 sounds great I know there are a lot of 1471 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:00,840 people out there that are shackled to 1472 01:07:05,390 --> 01:07:03,090 work working jobs they don't care about 1473 01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:05,400 they listen to us like this often during 1474 01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:07,920 that job and quit your job if you are 1475 01:07:14,450 --> 01:07:11,359 doing with livelihood that's so funny I 1476 01:07:16,250 --> 01:07:14,460 actually one of my I do a conspiracy 1477 01:07:17,870 --> 01:07:16,260 t-shirt brand as well and one of the 1478 01:07:20,060 --> 01:07:17,880 shirts is a homeless guy holding up a 1479 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:20,070 sign and his sign says quit your job and 1480 01:07:24,829 --> 01:07:22,890 I love the symbolism of that instead 1481 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:24,839 asking for something you say no you are 1482 01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:26,690 the one who I needs help 1483 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:29,400 exactly you're not going to die it's not 1484 01:07:33,769 --> 01:07:32,130 going to kill you there's no there's 1485 01:07:36,049 --> 01:07:33,779 nothing to be afraid of that's the thing 1486 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:36,059 is all kinds of built us into a prison 1487 01:07:40,460 --> 01:07:38,010 of fear so we don't want to go live our 1488 01:07:42,980 --> 01:07:40,470 own life and there is something to say a 1489 01:07:45,140 --> 01:07:42,990 lot of uh Zen philosophers talk about 1490 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:45,150 living in the present moment and anytime 1491 01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:47,130 you get really fearful or anytime you 1492 01:07:50,059 --> 01:07:48,240 get really stressed out it's because 1493 01:07:53,059 --> 01:07:50,069 you're concentrating on a perceived 1494 01:07:54,289 --> 01:07:53,069 future that you can't really control but 1495 01:07:57,259 --> 01:07:54,299 you know you say I can't quit today 1496 01:07:58,609 --> 01:07:57,269 because rents due in 30 days well maybe 1497 01:08:00,519 --> 01:07:58,619 something's going to happen in that 30 1498 01:08:03,620 --> 01:08:00,529 days but it is one scary 1499 01:08:05,870 --> 01:08:03,630 it'll happen if you embrace it we all 1500 01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:05,880 the courage you can muster your rent 1501 01:08:11,390 --> 01:08:09,359 will get paid that's that's the leap I'm 1502 01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:11,400 real I'm right at the edge there and I 1503 01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:13,140 want to make that leaf and I want to 1504 01:08:18,110 --> 01:08:15,599 believe that to be true but I'm just I I 1505 01:08:21,019 --> 01:08:18,120 just I'm not sure it is funny cuz a 1506 01:08:22,610 --> 01:08:21,029 little a little anecdote about this is 1507 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:22,620 the other day I was in a really negative 1508 01:08:26,749 --> 01:08:24,810 headspace and my girlfriend's a little 1509 01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:26,759 more on the side of this kind of stuff 1510 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:28,560 and I said you know the last piece of 1511 01:08:31,879 --> 01:08:30,810 the puzzle is me getting a ticket and on 1512 01:08:34,519 --> 01:08:31,889 my way home from work 1513 01:08:35,809 --> 01:08:34,529 I actually made eye contact with a cop I 1514 01:08:37,519 --> 01:08:35,819 made eye contact with him and in that 1515 01:08:39,379 --> 01:08:37,529 moment I said he's getting me I know 1516 01:08:41,570 --> 01:08:39,389 he's [\h__\h] getting me and he got in 1517 01:08:43,070 --> 01:08:41,580 his car pulled me over and made me get 1518 01:08:45,229 --> 01:08:43,080 out of the car and sit on my hands 1519 01:08:46,999 --> 01:08:45,239 that's not symbolic enough and she's 1520 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:47,009 like you manifested that I was like well 1521 01:08:50,629 --> 01:08:48,810 why can't I just [\h__\h] manifest some 1522 01:08:52,669 --> 01:08:50,639 good things you know it's always the 1523 01:08:57,050 --> 01:08:52,679 negative thoughts that seemed to come to 1524 01:08:59,059 --> 01:08:57,060 fruition yeah you they inserted yourself 1525 01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:59,069 yesterday pure so I need I need more 1526 01:09:01,450 --> 01:09:00,480 positive thoughts I guess that's what 1527 01:09:04,340 --> 01:09:01,460 we're getting at yeah 1528 01:09:07,970 --> 01:09:04,350 yeah you say really courage it's like 1529 01:09:09,649 --> 01:09:07,980 you just have to you know you use when I 1530 01:09:11,390 --> 01:09:09,659 get pulled over by a cop I just say you 1531 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:11,400 know this is gonna be the most awesome 1532 01:09:17,629 --> 01:09:15,690 ticket I've ever done and then I talk to 1533 01:09:19,459 --> 01:09:17,639 the cop like he's a real human being and 1534 01:09:21,740 --> 01:09:19,469 all of a sudden sometimes I don't even 1535 01:09:24,410 --> 01:09:21,750 get a ticket because I dress them as 1536 01:09:25,550 --> 01:09:24,420 people and they are so appreciative of 1537 01:09:28,249 --> 01:09:25,560 that because usually they're just 1538 01:09:31,249 --> 01:09:28,259 everybody's afraid of them and they feed 1539 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:31,259 on that just as much they do exactly 1540 01:09:35,170 --> 01:09:32,850 that's the key to understanding what the 1541 01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:35,180 archons its contagion and so the 1542 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:36,560 cops themselves but they don't really 1543 01:09:41,860 --> 01:09:39,530 want to be that way nobody really wants 1544 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:41,870 to be an archive of the archive yeah 1545 01:09:46,660 --> 01:09:44,570 it's that's crazy man but it's been 1546 01:09:47,740 --> 01:09:46,670 great talking to you but I mean Adam is 1547 01:09:48,970 --> 01:09:47,750 there anything you wanted to add before 1548 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:48,980 it looks like we're getting to an hour 1549 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:50,210 is there anything you want to throw out 1550 01:09:54,370 --> 01:09:52,610 that we could keep going and going but 1551 01:09:57,820 --> 01:09:54,380 yeah it's been a great hour talking to 1552 01:09:59,860 --> 01:09:57,830 you Jay that's been great well do you 1553 01:10:00,850 --> 01:09:59,870 have anything Jay that you're working on 1554 01:10:02,590 --> 01:10:00,860 you want to tell people about your 1555 01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:02,600 website some of your projects what you 1556 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:05,360 got going on yeah if you really want to 1557 01:10:11,950 --> 01:10:08,090 wake up I am now the programming 1558 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:11,960 director at online television streaming 1559 01:10:20,260 --> 01:10:14,090 network like Netflix only for people 1560 01:10:22,540 --> 01:10:20,270 like us is called die MTV da I am tv.com 1561 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:22,550 and if you want to help me then you hit 1562 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:26,690 backslash Weidner weit NER and go there 1563 01:10:30,460 --> 01:10:29,210 enjoy it for 10 days David Wilcock on 1564 01:10:33,630 --> 01:10:30,470 there I'm going to be doing Charlotte 1565 01:10:35,650 --> 01:10:33,640 Richard Hoagland George Nori's on there 1566 01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:35,660 Daniel Pinchbeck you can have a show 1567 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:38,480 soon we're really trying to bust the 1568 01:10:43,660 --> 01:10:41,330 paradigm loose as fast as we can so 1569 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:43,670 that's the best way that you can do it 1570 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:46,130 if you've got a skeptical family and 1571 01:10:50,530 --> 01:10:48,410 friends get them a sub subscription to 1572 01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:50,540 it and you know I found that after a 1573 01:10:56,410 --> 01:10:52,880 little while or watching this stuff they 1574 01:10:58,560 --> 01:10:56,420 don't begin changing yeah skip them all 1575 01:11:01,420 --> 01:10:58,570 and get them a subscription to Gaiam TV 1576 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:01,430 ok excellent man well thanks again you 1577 01:11:05,170 --> 01:11:03,290 know it has been a fascinating show I 1578 01:11:06,990 --> 01:11:05,180 hope we can do it again sometime because 1579 01:11:09,790 --> 01:11:07,000 there's just so much more to talk about 1580 01:11:12,430 --> 01:11:09,800 yeah and now in jump go enjoy the rest 1581 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:12,440 of your day you do that [\h__\h] you guys 1582 01:11:17,050 --> 01:11:15,290 okay take care of Jay wow man far-out 1583 01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:17,060 stuff how'd you how'd you feel about 1584 01:11:20,830 --> 01:11:17,840 that one 1585 01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:20,840 oh those that was cool enjoyed that 1586 01:11:26,530 --> 01:11:24,560 quite a bit I was somewhat familiar with 1587 01:11:29,580 --> 01:11:26,540 his work but this gave me a broader 1588 01:11:32,770 --> 01:11:29,590 perspective I was just familiar with the 1589 01:11:33,790 --> 01:11:32,780 Kubrick material but yeah yeah some 1590 01:11:36,010 --> 01:11:33,800 interesting ideas 1591 01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:36,020 the Kubrick branch on the conspiracy 1592 01:11:40,150 --> 01:11:38,480 tree is one that I definitely love 1593 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:40,160 because I like to it's again the 1594 01:11:45,010 --> 01:11:42,770 synchronicity thing the of developing 1595 01:11:47,170 --> 01:11:45,020 the true a true view of the universe but 1596 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:47,180 uh I loved Kubrick as a kid and I used 1597 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:48,650 to want to be a film director so 1598 01:11:52,510 --> 01:11:50,810 I do think there's a part of me that 1599 01:11:54,130 --> 01:11:52,520 like really likes the Kubrick tie-in 1600 01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:54,140 with the conspiracy because I'm like oh 1601 01:11:57,250 --> 01:11:55,760 that's all synchronistic in my life 1602 01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:57,260 because I was interested in Kubrick when 1603 01:12:02,979 --> 01:11:59,840 I was 11 years old and here we are still 1604 01:12:04,419 --> 01:12:02,989 talking about him at 27 but you know Jay 1605 01:12:07,450 --> 01:12:04,429 points out a lot of information that's 1606 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:07,460 just really solid yeah I agree it's fun 1607 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:10,370 fun talking to them let me ask you let 1608 01:12:12,970 --> 01:12:11,570 me ask you how you feel about the 1609 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:12,980 Enlightenment do you think people are 1610 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:22,090 don't know I don't know it's tough it is 1611 01:12:26,260 --> 01:12:24,890 tough to say I mean I was I was 1612 01:12:28,750 --> 01:12:26,270 literally thinking about this yesterday 1613 01:12:31,090 --> 01:12:28,760 trying to determine where on the scale 1614 01:12:32,590 --> 01:12:31,100 of awakening I think we are because you 1615 01:12:34,030 --> 01:12:32,600 know there are some positives but there 1616 01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:34,040 are some huge negatives and I'm going 1617 01:12:37,419 --> 01:12:35,600 into the bank which is probably the 1618 01:12:40,209 --> 01:12:37,429 worst place for me to be thinking about 1619 01:12:42,189 --> 01:12:40,219 this stuff but that seems like we're 1620 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:42,199 more enslaved in a lot of ways you know 1621 01:12:50,459 --> 01:12:45,770 agree everything with well yeah this is 1622 01:12:53,979 --> 01:12:50,469 the big matrix the banking the what 1623 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:53,989 social media has evolved into all the 1624 01:12:59,649 --> 01:12:57,290 snooping that goes on right it's 1625 01:13:02,830 --> 01:12:59,659 infiltrated just as much what the media 1626 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:02,840 is what's on television I mean whether 1627 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:06,170 you believe that the archons are from 1628 01:13:13,180 --> 01:13:09,170 another planet or whatever there's that 1629 01:13:14,950 --> 01:13:13,190 negative influence in society which I 1630 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:14,960 think we can find different ways to 1631 01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:19,010 break free of you know on a lot of the 1632 01:13:27,070 --> 01:13:23,920 levels and yeah that's just personal 1633 01:13:31,570 --> 01:13:27,080 what you eat each day what you consume 1634 01:13:33,130 --> 01:13:31,580 yes how you spend your time you know 1635 01:13:35,169 --> 01:13:33,140 yeah the food things really interesting 1636 01:13:37,090 --> 01:13:35,179 to me because you know we were talking 1637 01:13:39,310 --> 01:13:37,100 about talking to that guy Wheat Belly 1638 01:13:41,290 --> 01:13:39,320 and he yeah and Jay was talking about 1639 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:41,300 you know wheat being a bad that I'm 1640 01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:42,650 hearing this more and more 1641 01:13:46,350 --> 01:13:44,960 yeah wheats bad for you and in fact one 1642 01:13:49,330 --> 01:13:46,360 interesting thing I heard recently 1643 01:13:51,820 --> 01:13:49,340 talking about religions being there for 1644 01:13:53,890 --> 01:13:51,830 control mechanisms is that fatty acids 1645 01:13:56,020 --> 01:13:53,900 are good for your brain and that is why 1646 01:13:57,580 --> 01:13:56,030 all religions have days where you don't 1647 01:14:00,270 --> 01:13:57,590 eat meat or they have things against 1648 01:14:02,970 --> 01:14:00,280 eating meat and well I got into 1649 01:14:05,460 --> 01:14:02,980 what is that yeah that there's a lot to 1650 01:14:09,150 --> 01:14:05,470 that week belly thing I got into that 1651 01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:09,160 I've changed my diet over the years and 1652 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:11,590 the thing with the wheat had got 1653 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:17,410 hybridized back in the 80s and it you 1654 01:14:24,150 --> 01:14:20,890 know basically what's put forth in the 1655 01:14:26,190 --> 01:14:24,160 book when you consume the wheat you know 1656 01:14:30,420 --> 01:14:26,200 we don't have the original wheat that 1657 01:14:34,710 --> 01:14:30,430 dates back thousands of years it's this 1658 01:14:38,490 --> 01:14:34,720 new hybrid is hybridized really happened 1659 01:14:40,380 --> 01:14:38,500 in the 80s or so which according to the 1660 01:14:43,410 --> 01:14:40,390 thesis of the guy who wrote the Wheat 1661 01:14:47,490 --> 01:14:43,420 Belly book is responsible for obesity 1662 01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:47,500 and bad health and all of this and you 1663 01:14:52,860 --> 01:14:49,510 know if you look at some of the data 1664 01:14:57,090 --> 01:14:52,870 when you consume wheat your body 1665 01:15:00,120 --> 01:14:57,100 produces a lot more sugar than you know 1666 01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:00,130 consuming straight sugar and it creates 1667 01:15:06,030 --> 01:15:02,800 this vicious cycle where you consume 1668 01:15:08,670 --> 01:15:06,040 more of wheat and these type of things 1669 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:08,680 high fructose in your diet and all this 1670 01:15:14,730 --> 01:15:11,770 these nasty additives and that so what 1671 01:15:20,250 --> 01:15:14,740 is put forward in the book is more of a 1672 01:15:23,660 --> 01:15:20,260 paleo type net diet eating fruits and 1673 01:15:26,250 --> 01:15:23,670 vegetables and meat you know trying to 1674 01:15:28,230 --> 01:15:26,260 find meat that doesn't have a lot of 1675 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:28,240 stuff pumped into it as well you know 1676 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:30,970 the yeah that's a challenge brass fit 1677 01:15:38,490 --> 01:15:35,890 well it's not necessarily that difficult 1678 01:15:40,620 --> 01:15:38,500 just takes time preparing part of its 1679 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:40,630 preparing your own meals each day in own 1680 01:15:46,860 --> 01:15:44,410 world a lot of people are strapped for 1681 01:15:49,890 --> 01:15:46,870 time you know with yes with living life 1682 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:49,900 and now I'm a type I hear you mentioned 1683 01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:51,970 sometimes McDonald's and these type of 1684 01:15:57,930 --> 01:15:54,370 things definitely get the hell away from 1685 01:16:01,170 --> 01:15:57,940 yeah that there's some nasty stuff in 1686 01:16:02,850 --> 01:16:01,180 that and it's it's a vicious cycle 1687 01:16:05,250 --> 01:16:02,860 there's not a whole lot of good you can 1688 01:16:07,140 --> 01:16:05,260 find from the fast-food restaurant yeah 1689 01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:07,150 that was what I was saying I figured 1690 01:16:10,650 --> 01:16:08,830 you're referencing my facebook from the 1691 01:16:13,020 --> 01:16:10,660 other day or I said I I managed to 1692 01:16:13,810 --> 01:16:13,030 resist McDonald's during the Monopoly 1693 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:13,820 game which is real 1694 01:16:17,140 --> 01:16:15,050 tough for me because they're hitting two 1695 01:16:19,959 --> 01:16:17,150 of my addictions at one time gambling 1696 01:16:22,180 --> 01:16:19,969 and bad junk food mm-hmm but if you can 1697 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:22,190 stay away then I mean I mean that's the 1698 01:16:26,379 --> 01:16:24,050 real empowerment of the human spirit I 1699 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:26,389 guess the true triumph of the will 1700 01:16:31,810 --> 01:16:29,449 yeah I mean I would love to believe that 1701 01:16:33,459 --> 01:16:31,820 we waken up but some days like I was 1702 01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:33,469 going I went into that Bank and I go to 1703 01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:36,110 the teller and I say you know how you 1704 01:16:40,419 --> 01:16:38,000 doin man he's like oh you know I'm great 1705 01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:40,429 but I've really had to use the bathroom 1706 01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:42,110 for the past hour and just haven't been 1707 01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:44,719 able to go I go I'm a grown man not 1708 01:16:49,390 --> 01:16:46,489 being able to take a piss does not sound 1709 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:49,400 great to me and he just he just stares 1710 01:16:52,689 --> 01:16:50,690 at me because well I mean what can you 1711 01:16:54,270 --> 01:16:52,699 do he's at work but I'm like I feel like 1712 01:16:58,450 --> 01:16:54,280 some people are getting closer to 1713 01:16:59,979 --> 01:16:58,460 robotic automated beings with a 1714 01:17:02,890 --> 01:16:59,989 plastered smile on their face and 1715 01:17:05,770 --> 01:17:02,900 they're empty inside and that that 1716 01:17:08,379 --> 01:17:05,780 offends me that bothers me well it 1717 01:17:10,750 --> 01:17:08,389 starts with you you know personally 1718 01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:10,760 break free then you can worry about the 1719 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:14,449 others that is the challenge and I think 1720 01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:16,610 I'm about 60 days away from quitting 1721 01:17:21,700 --> 01:17:20,000 that corporate job but mmm you know yes 1722 01:17:24,010 --> 01:17:21,710 that's a scary thing but I guess you got 1723 01:17:27,310 --> 01:17:24,020 to go at it with positivity and 1724 01:17:30,700 --> 01:17:27,320 confidence and tell those archons to 1725 01:17:32,770 --> 01:17:30,710 [\h__\h] off there you go all right man well 1726 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:32,780 on that note I love having you on thanks 1727 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:34,730 for your contributions to THD through 1728 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:36,290 your blog transmissions from a dying 1729 01:17:39,729 --> 01:17:38,090 planet always nice to throw something 1730 01:17:43,870 --> 01:17:39,739 extra out to the people during the week 1731 01:17:46,899 --> 01:17:43,880 I do love that you do that right on this 1732 01:17:48,459 --> 01:17:46,909 was a good one yeah this was um so keep 1733 01:17:51,010 --> 01:17:48,469 rockin towards the free world and we'll 1734 01:17:53,500 --> 01:17:51,020 see you again man will talk ow we'll do 1735 01:17:53,979 --> 01:17:53,510 another interview next month okay sounds